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Question on Support Strength

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Ten Inch Rooster

Recruiter

11-02-2012

I'm not new new exactly as I've been 30 for a couple months and trying to get to 300 wins before I start ranked. I can't tell if support should be my "main" role or if its just the nature of normal drafts. When I play support I have an obnoxiously high win rate (easily over 75% if not almost 90%). I don't try to main support as in calling it at champion select but as many of you know if you're the "fill in" guy, you're either sup or jungle mostly. I do my homework. I ward, don't take CS, harass w/o overburning mana, ping and don't overextend myself unless I know where their jungler is. But I also know from experiences as adc that there are some terrible supports out there.

So my question becomes, in non-ranked is the level of skill randomly distributed enough that just doing the standards of the basic support creates a "support carry" (I especially feel like I'm carrying if I'm someone like Alistar) or is it more likely support is just my natural function? I know there are many other "fill in" guys out there so I'm curious to hear if they find things similar.


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Xanif

Junior Member

11-02-2012

I am not sure if I understand what you mean by "is the level of skill randomly distributed." There is ELO for normal just like there is ELO for ranked and you get paired accordingly. The difference is that you can't see your normal ELO.

As far as carrying with a support, supports can snowball a competent AD carry very easily. Something you should consider, though, is that supports like Alistar and Blitzcrank are obnoxiously good to the point that they are frequently banned in ranked. Sona has a high ban/pick rate but it is usually safe to assume that you can get her if you get a first pick before the enemy team. Taric is an excellent support that is usually left open and Soraka can really sustain your lane so that your AD carry can farm, but if you are not good at tracking your team's activities the global nature of her wish is wasted.

The other nice thing about the support role is that very few people want it. As a result, you can get very good at it much quicker than, say, mid where you might only get that role 25-50% of the time since you can almost always get support if you want it.

It sounds like you are enjoying support, and if so you should stick with it.


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chaser676

Senior Member

11-02-2012

Are you playing blind? Because alistar is never open in draft games. I'd recommend you completely quit blind and move to draft if you already haven't. Blind is stupidly easy and there's no real chance for pick/ban strategy.

Expect to never have alistar or blitz open, btw. Sona is also commonly picked and banned.

The illusion of carrying as a support is just that: an illusion. Supports are amplifiers, they change how well others others do. While your skill matters just as much as everyone else, you won't carry a game with other bad players.

Edit

Xanif is also right


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Ten Inch Rooster

Recruiter

11-02-2012

I never do anything but normal draft. I know Alistar is banned a lot and I rarely get to play him but when I do it seems to be GG. I definitely have my favorites and some supports I find much easier than others (for instance I have a MUCH easier time with Lulu, Zilean, and Leona whereas playing Janna has me white knuckled the whole game). I have my own personal bans as I never play Blitzcrank just because his kit I feel just makes it too easy. I had forgotten normal draft has a hidden elo so I guess its not evenly distributed. Hmmm....


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Jeanschyso

Senior Member

11-02-2012

Basically you like those supports that encourage balls deep agression

Same as me. Watch out, Leona's kind of addictive


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Ten Inch Rooster

Recruiter

11-02-2012

Quote:
QcGS Jeanschyso:
Basically you like those supports that encourage balls deep agression

Same as me. Watch out, Leona's kind of addictive


I like Leona a lot and I know what you mean. I can actually say I don't recall ever losing with her. My roommate will often be adc and he sits right next to me while we play. If I'm Leona our coordination is rarely anything but lethal. We have actually been purposely playing other roles so we can work on them better.


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Invisibleally

Senior Member

11-02-2012

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chaser676:

While your skill matters just as much as everyone else, you won't carry a game with other bad players.


Veteran supports have heard it all before. When the team fails, it's our fault, but when the team wins: not so much as a 'thank you'.

Supports don't slam dunk; they just do all the work.

Rooster, people like Chaser that refuse to acknowledge the good things you've done are all you have to look forward to if you become a support specialist. You save three teammates at a time a hundred times, but the only time they say anything to you it's just how you 'let them die'. It's a hard road, but if your heart heals quickly it has a lot of rewarding moments. When your teammates bask in victory, you'll know it was you.


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