Trying to get response from 2k+ elo player

12
Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

HowFortuitous

This user has referred a friend to League of Legends, click for more information

Senior Member

11-01-2012

I'm not a 2200 elo player, but I can explain some of this.

Mobafire is often ridiculed because there are very few standards for guides submitted. Guides are then judged based on popularity. There are highly rated builds on mobafire that suggest full offense with no defensive stats on bruisers, suggest niche items as cores and other such things that are generally considered not the best way to go. Other sites have a bit more of an informed community. I personally prefer lolpro as the guides there are written by pros and usually have some good advice on how to build a champion. More or less though, mobafire is hit or miss, making it an unreliable source of infomration.

As to your second question, there are four general reasons why pros build "weird".
1) To counter their opponent in lane. Sometimes you pick up an item for the purpose of simply surviving the laming phase. When facing a darius in lane, buildling armor and health is a solid idea if you know you are going to otherwise get pushed out of lane. This allows you to farm and wait for late game instead of feeding.
2) To facilitate a specific strategy. A good example of this is ionic spark on shen. Ionic spark is generally considered a more or less useless item, but on a shen it can allow him to effecitvely split push quickly while his ult is up, allowing him to apply pressure to the enemy towers while his team pushes an objective elsewhere. This puts the enemy team in an awkward position-do you chase shen knowing he will just ult back to his team when you get there? Or ignore him and let him take your towers?
3) Trying new stuff. A lot of the time the pros will use their stream time or solo queue time to practice with new strategies or ideas. Sometimes this includes taking generally unpopular items and seeing how they work out with a champion.
4) Because they are bored, it's 2 AM and why the hell not. Solo queue and streaming time is as often used as a screw around time. Often playing champions based on popular vote, or using items because "meh." Basically, it's not serious.

A lot of this comes down to understanding how the stats work, how the items function, and understanding their potential. New strategies are formed by trying new things, and sometimes, the pros play just to screw around and have fun like the rest of us.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

Crewcial

This user has referred a friend to League of Legends, click for more information

Member

11-01-2012

thanks for all the advice everyone its very helpful


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

EddyEduardo

This user has referred a friend to League of Legends, click for more information

Senior Member

11-01-2012

lolpro is alright as well


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

alpha quail

Senior Member

11-01-2012

They itemize based on the enemy.

Sunfire+mercs for instance is a fantastic way to cause problems for voli and irelia, as it provides a decent amount of both defenses, tenacity, and health, all while punishing them for staying near as both are prolonged traders.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

Axiom

Senior Member

11-01-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tremor View Post
Also Mobafire is bad. Just don't use it. If you are going to use anything, use www.solomid.com stuff. They have some valuable information in their guides and the featured ones are very very informative.
It's www.solomid.net not www.solomid.com

But yeah, use either the approved or pro created guides on solomid.net. Mobafire guides are typically bad because anyone can make/post one. 99% of Mobafire guides are complete trash because of this. The approved and pro guides on solomid are guaranteed to have been reviewed by good players, and they typically have lots of explanation for what you build and where/why you build it.


Comment below rating threshold, click here to show it.

Alacor

Senior Member

11-01-2012

Not 2k+, but am 1900+.

Mobafire guides have no standards set in place in order for a guide to be one of the most prominently displayed guides for a champion. More upvotes = more visibility, essentially. Considering that the majority of the playerbase doesn't truly understand how to play this game right down to its core mechanics, that method of providing visibility for a guide doesn't exactly work.

Solomid guides that are featured or approved are checked for substance as well as merit behind the actual player that created the guide. They generally have extremely good guides.

That doesn't necessarily mean that there are no good guides on mobafire. It just means that it's essentially a "noob trap."


12