[Official Petition] Let new TT be a new map by itself.

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Twilight Monkey

Senior Member

12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by SoBeNirvana View Post
Because it's 3v3 lane push map?

No offense, but by that logic Proving Grounds is Summoner's Rift.

The new TT only has two things in common with old TT: 2 lanes, 3 players. That's literally it. Nearly every other facet of the map was drastically changed. Don't get me wrong, I like both maps. I prefer the new one, slightly. But at the same time, this "Noveltyphobia" that Riot has going on in regards to map making is starting to get silly.
I like you bro. I want the old map back ont because i am afraid of change, but because I really loved it like so many others.

I don't understand why they can't see this. Respect your community riot, some of us really want to make this game better.

When the new TT was released on the pbe, many stated the same things, yet riot ignored our comments and suggestions and pushed ahead anyways.


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Made In China

Member

12-25-2012

Signed.
I really preferred the old map...


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mastercoolz

Junior Member

12-25-2012

Signed, miss the old Twisted treeline .


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KabalWins

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12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Volibar View Post
Hi all, just wanted to drop by and say a few things. To start off, we certainly have been reading this thread and watching it over the past few weeks. I haven't been posting here because I wanted to see the overall sentiment from around the community about the new Twisted Treeline after people have had a chance to play it and experience it for themselves in a meaningful way.

I've also addressed some of TT topics on our Reddit AMA we did a few days ago, but I'm happy to discuss here as well

When we started looking at Twisted Treeline really intensely earlier this year (around the start of 2011), there were many issues that the community had identified. Among the worst were turtling, the meta being pretty stale, and there were a pretty big number of exploits that had way too much of an effect on the game. (You probably already know this, though.)

So, when we sat down to try and solve the problems, the solution space we started in was small - can we make a few simple changes here or there? What if we make a few item changes, etc.? Those helped, but ultimately we started expanding what we tried, but at the same time we were seeing better resolution to those problems. We adjusted the layout, sometimes making small changes, sometimes trying things we thankfully didn't ship (and we tried a TON). In the end, the map we created and all of the changes that have come with it was our answer to the problems that have plagued the map for a very long time. Our goal has and will always be to allow the fast pace, high action, small team feel that TT should represent to flourish.

As for the fate of old TT, right now we have no plans to add it back into custom games. we wanted to make sure that we don't split the focus of our players for each game type. For the same reason we probably won't ever create a 5v5 map that's really similar to Summoner's Rift, we didn't want to split the TT community between two maps. There's really no winner in that scenario, as there are two maps to support, two metas to maintain, and overall a really small delta between the two. We'd rather have you and our teams focused on one, working together to make it great as opposed to two, having neither of them living up to their full potential. If competitive TT is also going to take off, having two maps, even in custom games, is detrimental.

Let's be clear though, this is still Twisted Treeline. It is a bit different and sometimes change can be a little disruptive, but when we took a look at what we had on our hands after thousands of playtests, we wanted to release the new TT to you and get feedback as part of our Beta process. That's still ongoing, and we're going to continue to listen to your feedback and make changes going forward, ensuring that TT has the support it deserves.
screw you you're comment is under the rating threshold by the way bring back the old map


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Alterv

Member

12-25-2012

I think the old TT should be available as a custom map alternate for regular TT. But it should not be bought back to the regular queues. I just tried to play draft 3v3 game, and the wait time was
12:00 mins................. o.o nope, no thanks.


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FriendlyRaid

Senior Member

12-26-2012

Signed.


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No Ones A Hero

Junior Member

12-26-2012

Signed, i want both xD


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Paul Temps

Junior Member

12-26-2012

Hi all!

I think that the new TT is not an improvement of the old, as many thinks. In fact, I liked the way it was. I admit that I played less on that map but now, I don't even play anymore.

Trying to fix it was a good idea, since the map wasn't that much popular. What I think you should do is, however, put more maps. And once you have, let's say 10 or more maps, put a Random mode with options of random maps and random heroes for single players. A deathmatch map would be awesome.

Bring back the old TT? Why not! And keep the new as well. Put more maps 5v5 and 3v3 and why not 2v2 and 4v4, or even big big games of 8v8 or 10v10!

Anyway, your game is very nice, the best video game ever?


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Tyler Teh Killa

Senior Member

12-26-2012

i love 3s and i wish this was its own map itself


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MrWayner3

Junior Member

12-26-2012

signed