World Playoffs - Rule Violations

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Amocoru

Senior Member

10-10-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBeard View Post
Hi everyone,

We’ve completed a comprehensive investigation of all alleged incidents of players looking at the venue screen at the World Playoffs. Our full rulings are posted by bitingpig below, but here’s the tl;dr:

We evaluated these cases based on intent, severity and tangible impact to the course of the game. Based on our investigation, the Azubu Frost incident is the only one where we determined there to be tangible impact – we believe other members of AzF modified their gameplay (level 1 ping and Jayce brush check) based upon the information gained. We don’t believe, however, that these actions decided the winner of the game.

Per our rules we are issuing a fine of $30,000* for unsportsmanlike conduct. Proceeds will go to our charity program in Korea.

Here are summaries of our findings on the other incidents:

  • Quarterfinal #4, Game 3 (CLG.EU v. Team WE) at 19:24 on the game clock – WE WeiXiao looked up at the venue screen. Practical benefits to Team WE were limited - Corki’s moves after WeiXiao’s look would have been logical, whether he saw Sona’s position on the venue screens or not. We have determined this to be unsportsmanlike and have issued a warning.
  • Group Stage A (IG v. SK) at 13:00 on the game clock – iG Zz1tai looked over his right shoulder at the screens. From our analysis, there was no material impact to the game. We have determined this to be unsportsmanlike and have issued a warning.
  • Quarterfinal #3, (restarted) Game 1 (AZF v. TSM) during game pause – TSM Dyrus turned his head to determine whether it was feasible to see the minimap screens from the stage. TSM obtained no direct meaningful benefits from Dyrus’ action as the game was restarted, but we have issued a warning.
  • Quarterfinal #2, Game 1 (TPA v. NaJin Sword) at 4:11 on the game clock - TPA Stanley briefly looked to his left, then looked forward and adjusted his monitor. We’ve determined he was responding to glare issues. The position of all five players of NaJin Sword was already visible to TPA at this time. While Stanley violated the referee’s instructions to look forward at all times, there was no unsportsmanlike conduct.

*20% of current tournament winnings.

We take this stuff seriously. Our rules on sportsmanlike conduct are clearly communicated to competitors, and our decisions here are based on those rules. More importantly, this sort of behavior shouldn’t have been possible in the first place, and we recognize that and have taken steps to ensure it doesn’t happen in the future.
Complete and utter absolute bull****. You're saying that cheating on a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP level should only result in a minor fine and the team being able to continue to play in the tournament? This is absolutely unforgivable. All respect for RIOT is lost...I'm so angry about this.


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ShiningForever

Junior Member

10-10-2012

<I>We don’t believe, however, that these actions decided the winner of the game.</I>

WOW.

Are the creators of LoL really that detached from high level play? Level 1 play completely determines the flow of the entire game. A level 1 team fight could decide the entire game.

And if you're willing to admit that cheating DID occur, then why not disqualify a team? Or re-do the game? $30,000 to a sponsored professional team is literally NOTHING. Their sponsors at home will gladly pay that fee multiple times over as long as their teams wins, even if that involves knowingly cheating.

THIS IS A MILLION DOLLAR TOURNAMENT. These punishments are a joke.


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Nytemayr

Member

10-10-2012

Im not a fan of TSM at all - actually I don't like them at all, however a 30k fine for cheating and gaining an advantage is quite simply pathetic. That level 1 engage could have lead to a completely different outcome of the match.


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OnePurpleDolphin

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10-10-2012

This is a joke, it's better off if you guys just stay silent and do nothing. This fine makes no sense or whatsoever, cause you guys clearly admitted they are cheating and not DQ/give a rematch instead.


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Diskroll

Junior Member

10-10-2012

This shouldn't even have been a problem. Just make it so they can't see the screen in the first place.


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Netomon

Junior Member

10-10-2012

What Woong did isn't something Frost should be disqualified for. Cheating is cheating, but there are different levels of severity. Did Frost cheat throughout the tournament or even in multiple instances throughout any of there other matches? No, apparently not. It's not the same as lets say an Olympic runner taking performance enhancing drugs (which is obviously ban worthy).

You can say that TSM would have snowballed off a first blood, but that's speculation. Frost showed that they were capable of coming back from being down 4 deaths to TSM in game 2. Other matches in the tournament showed that first blood wasn't the end for the team who gave it up.

If you're going to keep comparing LoL eSports to other sports, know that cheating comes in many different forms and levels of severity. Each is punished in a different way, not just with disqualification or rematches. I think that Riot's punishment is good enough for the crime.


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AR Manimal

Senior Member

10-10-2012

Good on you to punish them but seriously.. 30k? They have the potential to win 2 million here. They should be booted or at least have a rematch.

Oh, also get booths.


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9Line Asuna

Senior Member

10-10-2012

No respect for you riot... No respect. You can take your double IP weekend and throw it in the trash for all I care.


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Olymp1c

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10-10-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by AmbushIntheDark View Post
"You cheated to get an A+ on that final exam? Well were gonna have to bump you down to a B but make sure it doesnt happen again."
It may be sad, but I could totally see this happening.


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Traithan

Senior Member

10-10-2012

Riot is the worst eSports managers in the history of eSports.

Catches people cheating, doesn't DQ.

Grats on this tourney (and all future riot events) losing all integrity.

Guys, just remember, you can cheat 3 times before you get DQ'd according to their rules. So just cheat when you REALLY need to.