World Playoffs - Rule Violations

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YoshioPeePee

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10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by ShreddinMMA View Post
Wow.

And people were ragging on TSM so much, calling them trash, etc.

The least they deserved was your peoples respect, especially now that RIOT has determined AzF cheated.

That's just bull.
to a certain point i agree with this

tsm players have always been unfairly judged by the trashy conduct of some of their fans

tsm had a right to be upset and had a right to complain

it was their fans who took things way too far and made unreasonable demands, this was not tsm's fault.

almost every negative thing that has been said about tsm is really more on their fanbase than on the team itself or any of their players. Many of tsm's fans do really need to grow up but to judge the team and its players based on the conduct of other people is not really fair


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10-10-2012

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League of Legends Competition Ruling

Tournament: World Playoffs, Quarterfinal #3, Game 1
Teams: Azubu Frost vs. TSM
Date of Match: October 5
Date of Ruling: October 9
Subject: Unsportsmanlike Conduct


Chronology:

The game was paused to deal with audio/microphone malfunctions with the AzF headsets. During the pause:
  • TSM Chaox said that he had witnessed a member of AzF looking at the venue screens during the game. Referees didnít independently corroborate these allegations.
  • TSM Dyrus looked back and up at the venue screens.

The match was then restarted as a result of AzFís inability to fully communicate in-game (mic malfunction). Prior to the restart, referees directed both teams to look forward at all times during the match.

After the restart, TSM left its base en masse, appearing to be invading top lane/brush. At 00:15 on the game clock, Woong of AzF looked back and up to his right at the venue screens.At 00:25 on the game clock, an AzF player pinged near the lane between TSMís top inhibitor tower and the second top lane tower.

AzF Shy (Jayce) and AzF MadLife (Blitzcrank) headed to top lane. AzF Shy (Jayce) approached the brush where TSM was headed to hide, switched to Cannon mode and fired his skillshot into the brush, landing a hit on TSM Dyrus (Darius), which gave away TSM Dyrus (Darius)í position. AzF Shy (Jayce) then backed away.

Once AzF had confirmed that Darius was top lane with Jayceís skillshot:
  • AzF sent two players deep into TSMís red jungle to drop a sapling at wraith camp, which would ordinarily be a dangerous risk for only two players.
  • AzF Woong (Miss Fortune) facechecked bottom laneís tribrush, which would have been an extremely risky move had he not known that the lane was likely unoccupied by TSM. AzF Woong (Miss Fortune) did not even cast ďMake it RainĒ to reveal the brush, indicating a high level of confidence that the brush was uncontested.


Relevant Competition Rule(s):

1. The World Championship Competition Rules, Paragraph 9.1, prohibit unsportsmanlike behavior.
a. Penalties, as set forth in Paragraph 9.2, include, without limitation:
i. Verbal Warning
ii. Prize Money Deduction
1. Minor infraction: 5% of World Championship prize money
2. Major infraction: 20% of World Championship prize money
iii. Loss of Side Selection
iv. Game Forfeiture
v. Tournament Disqualification
2. Prior to the game, referees directed both teams to look forward at all times during the match.


Analysis:

TSM Dyrus clearly turned his head to his left and looked back and upward at the venue screen, but there is no direct evidence that TSM Dyrus obtained any helpful information from this action. TSM obtained no direct meaningful benefits from TSM Dyrusí action; the game was restarted afterward.

TSM Chaox briefly turned his head toward the AzF team to monitor them. This violation had no potential or actual gameplay benefits for TSM.

AzF Woong clearly turned his head to his right and looked back and upward at the venue screens. The potential gains from this action were not inconsequential. At 00:15 into the restarted game, AzF had no idea where TSM was located or which direction they were headed. AzF did not have Clairvoyance. By looking at the venue screens, AzF Woong stood to learn the location of all TSM champions.AzF Woongís actions did yield tangible benefits for AzF. Once AzF learned that all five members of TSM were in the top lane area, this reduced TSMís ability to control top lane and pressure AzFís blue side. It also allowed AzF to more safely invade TSMís red side.


Rulings:

TSM Chaox did not look forward at all times during the game. This was not unsportsmanlike conduct.

TSM Dyrus violated the rules by looking at the stage screens. This violation, however, did not yield any meaningful benefits for TSM.

AzF Woong violated the rules by looking at the stage screens. His actions yielded benefits for AzF in the game. Other members of AzF modified their gameplay based upon the information.


Penalties:

TSM Chaox: None.

TSM Dyrus is hereby warned not to engage in any further rule violations. Further violations may result in additional penalties.

AzF Woong committed a major infraction of the rules and the team is hereby collectively fined in the amount of 20% of the prize winnings earned by AzF as a result of advancing into the Semifinals ($150,000). AzFís total fine for this violation is $30,000. Further violations may result in additional penalties.
If its worth a 30,000 fine it's worth disqualification. He cheated and changed the course of the game... I'm not a TSM fan boy I like Dig... But cheating to win should be a DQ.


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uAir

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10-10-2012

Player is focused on attacking and on a push. A gank is about to happen, he doesn't pay attention or worry about that. Fans gasp and scream because camera focuses on a gank about to happen. Player hears this, player begins moving back and because of that extra time he had he survives the gank.

How are you going to prove he cheated? How are you going to prove he heard it? How are you going to prove he didn't hear it? How are you going to argue game sense vs cheating vs experience?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...onship/c6jaslu

So yes, players can indeed hear the crowd through the headsets. Fail is fail.


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Elenia Andras

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10-10-2012

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There is now a precedent set for looking at the minimap at lvl 1. It is easy to "game" the system. No more need to worry about cheese such as the crazy IG lvl 1 strategies we saw. Just look at minimap to be safe and pay 20% of your winnings.
A really stupid logic. Being safe at level 1 does not mean that you win the game. Look at WE vs CLG.eu game where WE was already up 9-1 in kills and a lot in gold. Yet CLG.eu came back to win that game (officially the Game 2 of the series). We've seen M5 being behind early on against iG and went to to win their games too. Don't forget TSM leading against Frost on Game 2 only to lose that game as well.

If the winner of the game is decided at level 1, why bother watching after 3 minutes? Don't be stupid.


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JLR

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10-10-2012

Great job Riot!!!!!


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ItsProbingTime

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10-10-2012

I'm glad Riot took it upon themselves to do a very thorough investigation of the cheating accusations but I am dissapointed in the punishments handed out in the most part. IMO a warning is meaningless it basically gives player the chance to get away with a free peek at the screen to learn something of value and then change playstyle accordingly without making it to obvious (AF made it too obvious when they ping TSM in the fog of war and then Shy warning shot in brush). Secondly they cheated no if ands or buts, seriously in a university/college final exams if your caught cheating you get 0 doesnt matter how many time u cheated or even if u got the cheated answer right, so some sort of punishment should be done. THis is a huge thing 2 Million dollars are up for grabs and things should not be taken too lightly. IMO all those with conclusive evidence of cheating (all cases except Chaox cause he didnt look at screen) should have been fined the 5% of winnings and in case of Azubu Frost where it was more severe automatic lost to match. Thats first blood we are talking about on Shy who was carrying them the previou games and possibly a lvl 1 tower or jungle invade, who knows tho because TSM were found out. U cant determine the severity of what they saw by the immediate impact it had on the game. TSM for all we know could have killed Shy, taken tower invaded red and clean out jungle which could have crippled the top and jungler for AZF. But we dont know this because the next sequence of events were stopped when AZF cheated so Riot can't really determine the severity of the cheating. This could have been avoided if Riot took a little more precautions on screen peeking tho i do like the idea of the players being out in the open and visible to the audience instead of in booths.


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coffee addict

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10-10-2012

Cool beans

Love you riot


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AmbushIntheDark

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10-10-2012

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Sorry, they wouldn't have my respect even if they destroyed everyone and won the tourney blindfolded. They're still a bunch of manchildren. Honestly if it had been clg who had been defeated they would have accepted it like men instead of sending the fanboys on a witchhunt,.
When theres a lady flying around on a broom and turning people into newts, I'm pretty sure a Witch Hunt is justified.


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Jayjayko

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10-10-2012

Wooohoooo


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AnonymousFLo

Junior Member

10-10-2012

If riot was really serious about this tournament, they should have set up sound proof booths that block vision and sound. Just like the SC2 tournaments