TSM & AF Cheating Issue

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smartman294

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10-08-2012

Tsm lost Af won no one cheated


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Bacon Supreme

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10-08-2012

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Originally Posted by smartman294 View Post
Tsm lost Af won no one cheated
Everyone is just too angry to see this.


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Lion Heart NA

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10-08-2012

Bump for justice!


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Noxe Out

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10-08-2012

agreed, but riot will do nothing


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ZakarumOP

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10-08-2012

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Tsm lost Af won no one cheated
Your talking like you know that for a fact and probaly didn't even bother to view the pictures or the video.


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Haxproof

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10-08-2012

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Your talking like you know that for a fact and probaly didn't even bother to view the pictures or the video.
And can you know for a fact that AF cheated? Benefit of doubt applies here. You don't disqualify somebody for "suspicions of cheating", you disqualify them for cheating.


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ZakarumOP

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10-08-2012

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Everyone is just too angry to see this.
Stat what you think & stop just throwing out random troll comments like "Butthurt NA Fans" I don't see why your so opposed to people trying to find answers out and talking about it.


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Bacon Supreme

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10-08-2012

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Your talking like you know that for a fact and probaly didn't even bother to view the pictures or the video.
People are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but everyone seems to be fine concluding that frost definitely cheated based off of what is, at best, circumstantial evidence.


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YoshioPeePee

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10-08-2012

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The unfortunate thing is that there is no DEFINITIVE proof. As convincing as the evidence looks, we were not there, we cannot possibly know the circumstances. As unprofessional it is to have a cheater move on, it is even more unprofessional to DQ someone without ABSOLUTE proof they were cheating.

Let AF move on, and in the future ensure unfair play is no longer possible.
this is correct, we must give AF the benefit of the doubt and assume they did not cheat unless riot uncovers some new definitive evidence that objectively proves otherwise

suspicion and assumptions alone should not be grounds to DQ a team or drag a team that won back for a rematch. Just because we have a few screens and circumstantial evidence that "seem fishy" is not enough to assume a cheat since there are many explanations for what happened in those moments

it simply would not be fair, and it would be far worse to punish an innocent team for something that they did not do than to let a guilty team to move on, especially when it is not even clear what difference the peeking would have made even if it actually occurred and even if it was intentional. (both things that are incredibly unclear, even regi himself has put forward alternative explanations for what could have happened that this evidence does not disprove.)

a million dollars is on the line, there must be 100% definitive, objective, unbiased, and indisputable proof. AF does not have a history of shady acts, why are they not deserving of the benefit of the doubt from the NA community?


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ComeAtMeTribunal

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10-08-2012

TSM would of lost either way.

Azubu Frost outplays TSM hard.