RP Price Reductions: Swain, Trundle, Rammus, Kassadin

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Cyrad

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09-22-2012

Even for RP, these reductions aren't great.

Glad prices are being re-evaluated.


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MMKH

Senior Member

09-22-2012

Riot are you trolling us again... IP reductions are best on older champs. I would prefer RP reductions to be kept for skins instead.


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hawkz53

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09-22-2012

Very misleading title


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Jetstream417

Senior Member

09-22-2012

So...not IP reductions.


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Unholyrath

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09-22-2012

Noticed not a single 6300 IP champion.

Then noticed not even reduced IP costs.

Well done, Riot. #1 Marketing team.


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PyroAerAqu

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09-22-2012

I would say just keep a consistency....

6300 ip should have a corresponding rp
so is 4800 and 3150 and so on.
you should already know this outcome when you guys introduce the 4800 ip champs....


in terms of price, ppl like to see consistency over variety especially you just making changes on old champ.


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SlappindaBass

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09-22-2012

reduce ez ip price, then nerf him


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Dracard

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09-22-2012

So this reduction is really laughable at best, with the lowest RP purchase you get 650 for 5 dollars, that comes out to 130 RP per dollar. For a 975 RP Champ you are paying $7.50 and for the 850 you are paying ~$6.54, less than a dollar discount. At the 790 you are paying ~$6.08, less than a $.50 difference but almost $1.50 cheaper than the 975.

The current RP price for 3150 champs is 585 which works our to $4.50 and the 690 comes out to ~$5.31, the differences don't seem like much unless you regularly buy champs for cash then it will really start to add up. Also it was VERY foolish when testing prices to go from 790 to 850 on 4800 champs. You cannot give someone something at a price and then give them essentially the same thing later at a higher price and expect them to be happy about it.

TL;DR Riot would have had a much better response from the players if the had reduced 850 to 790, not the other way around.


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Xaephros

Senior Member

09-22-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippalus View Post
Hi all, thanks for the feedback.

The main reason for these particular RP price reductions is to understand how champion purchase patterns change at different price points. Once we have enough data, I will propose a long term price structure for champions that covers both RP & IP. The overriding goal is to find the best price structure for both players and Riot.

Champion IP price reductions were restarted 17 days ago after a long hiatus, and the fact that we decided to reduce RP prices today does NOT mean that we are no longer looking at IP prices.

-Hippalus
Thanks for clarifying this


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09-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Daedric Masters View Post
I'll try to be constructive about this, instead of raging with just and mighty rage over no IP reductions.

Because perhaps the IP reductions are not the point here. Sure they would be nice and the vast majority of players, myself included would like to see more IP reductions on older (S1) 6300's, champs that get no love from Riot. BUT!

The point is the perceived value when deciding whether to spend your real-life, hard-earned cash on a new, shiny, exciting champ or an older not-so-exciting-anymore champ that is in a lower IP tier, and is as such, perceived to be of lesser value.
The point is the discrepancy in the price tiers when comparing the IP/RP costs of champs.

Some 3150's and 4800's cost the same 975 RP as a 6300 IP champ.
Some 3150 IP champs cost more RP than a 4800.
Some 4800 IP champs cost less RP than other 4800's.

Why the discrepancy? Why not make fixed RP cost tiers the same as the IP tiers? A player would rather spend 975 RP on a new 6300 than an old S1 3150 champ, and just save the IP for the old champ, after all, it's a better deal for his cash.

So, even though I think Riot is going in the right direction by reducing the prices of older champs, I do believe it is not enough to skim off 75 RP and create yet another level of confusion and price discrepancy since now we have 4800 IP champs that cost 975, 850, and 790 RP.

I mean... Get your act together Riot, people spend more cash on skins and new champs and spend IP on the older champs anyway, so reducing their RP costs further and rebalancing RP/IP tiers would probably benefit you more than hurt. Also, screw doing it gradually. One swift stroke of justice for all the champs in the store would be much more satisfying for us players.
This. They should just standardize it.

I think they ARE planning to standardize it; they're trying out a bunch of different RP:IP ratios to find the one they should standardize it to. They'll look at the different heroes with different ratios, and see which ones generate the most income for them: whichever one generates the highest result for (number of purchases with RP) * (RP cost), adjusted for other factors such as the overall popularity of the hero in question.