AD Sion: The Ultimate Darius Counter

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Sodaen

Senior Member

09-15-2012

Let me just tell you, AD Sion smashes Darius. He just smashes him to the wall from Level 1 Onwards.

Darius starts with 20 Armor that will increase by 3.5 Per Level. He will likely start with Armor Seals (13 Armor) to maximize his resilience against physical damage targets such as yourself; this will net him a total of 33 Armor at Level 1. At level 6 he will have 50.5 Armor (rounding up to 51); at level 12 he will have 71.5 Armor (rounding up to 72). At level 18 he will have 92.5 Armor (rounding up to 93).

Darius by tradition starts with Movement Speed Quints to make his lack of an escape less of an issue. This also makes him a feared chaser and gets him in range for his Apprehend which pulls you back into him.

Masteries: 21/9/0 (http://s17.postimage.org/gjcsap7ct/ADSion.jpg)

Runes: (http://s11.postimage.org/g5ti3l9vl/ADSion_Runes.jpg)
Marks: Armor Penetration (15 Armor Penetration)
Seals: Flat Armor
Glyphs: Flat Magic Resist
Quintessences: Armor Penetration (10 Armor Penetration)

From Masteries and Runes you will have a total of 31 Armor Penetration at the very beginning of the game. You mad Armor Buyers?

Summoner Spells: [Ignite/Flash] [Exhaust/Flash]

Level 1: Enrage (E)
Level 2: Cryptic Gaze (Q)
Level 3: Enrage (E)
Level 4: Death's Caress (W)
Level 5: Enrage (E)
Level 6: Cannibalism (R)

Order of True Men:
A. Max Cannibalism (R)
B. Max Enrage (E)
C. Max Death's Caress (W)
D. Max Cryptic Gaze (Q)

Standard Aggressive Path: Boots and 3 Pots -> Zeal -> Berserker's Greaves -> Phantom Dancer -> Phantom Dancer -> Infinity Edge -> Last Whisper OR Guardians Angel -> Last Whisper OR Guardians Angel

You should just do staggering amounts of unbelievable damage to Darius and whenever he begins to stack his passive on you, you stun him and then walk away from the threat until the passive disappears (his ultimate's damage also scales on the number of stacks of this passive that he stacks on you, up to a maximum of 5).

Armor Penetration is very important in both Marks and Quints because your Attack Damage should be hitting around 170 when your Enrage (E) is maxed so this maximizes possible damage as you will be getting ridiculous amounts of damage regardless as a function of your kit.

Surely he will stack Armor against you as he realizes he is losing trades but stay on course and continue to build your Berserker's Graves and build at least one Phantom Dancer. This will solve issues that Sion has with Movement Speed and Attack Speed but also will provide you the much needed Critical Strike Chance that you need in order to get the maximum value of your 170 Attack Damage at max levels of Enrage.

The reason that I say to build two Phantom Dancers before Infinity Edge is because Sion does not necessarily need Attack Damage at this stage of the game as his skillset allows him to get so much Attack Damage regardless. The Movement Speed also allows him to counter the Movement Speed Quints that Darius would get in his runeset to also make you a feared chaser.

Critical Strike and Attack Speed assist Sion so much in getting the maximum throughput of your already existent incredible damage. You can not forget about the +10% Critical Strike Damage that you picked up in the Masteries.

Although Infinity Edge gives Critical Strike Chance and the +50% Critical Strike Damage to scale off of the +10% Critical Strike Damage from Masteries it does not provide the overall damage that Double Phantom Dancers would do for AD Sion again due to the incredible Attack Damage of AD Sion.


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Sodaen

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09-15-2012

Bump for the Arnold!


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Hero of Hate

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12-02-2012

yes, you win early levels against the darius ive found, but lategame, darius will pull ahead of you, so make sure your team realizes this, and acts accordingly


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Jesus the Friend

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12-02-2012

Darius zones AD Sion hard early game with Decimate, gg.


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ShadowlQQ

Senior Member

12-03-2012

so this sion getting free farm without harass...


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Zorpheus3

Senior Member

12-03-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enraged Minion View Post
yes, you win early levels against the darius ive found, but lategame, darius will pull ahead of you, so make sure your team realizes this, and acts accordingly
Lategame is where Sion shines. A full build AD Sion is probably one of the most deadly champions in the game, Its just incredibly hard for him to get there.


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PhysicalTadpole

Member

12-03-2012

ignite/morellos op. any coordinated team will shut AD sion out with ease.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorpheus3 View Post
Lategame is where Sion shines. A full build AD Sion is probably one of the most deadly champions in the game, Its just incredibly hard for him to get there.


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MaskedUnicyclist

Senior Member

12-03-2012

AD Sion: So easy to counter that he is of absolutely no value versus a coordinated team.

Darius: Picked and played at 2k+ elo and in tournaments.

Also, Darius is a monster early game and Sion is very weak early game... I mean Sion is REALLY bad early game while Darius is REALLY good.......

Need I say more? Sion doesn't even come close to countering him, it's just not going to happen early game -late game Sion will be a tanky monster of doom dishing out enormous amounts of damage, and most certainly late game is far superior to Darius.. But he won't survive the lane phase versus Darius.

Sorry to pop your bubble, but your theory is a deluded one.


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destructionX

Senior Member

12-03-2012

no no no. trynd is more of the ultimate counter. grab cleanse and flash. executioners then IE. darius cant out damage your sustain with it. farm all day. darius wont out damage you after IE. darius ult will never be refreshed. trynd ult cd is short enough. darius requires his ult to get the kill. he needs it. hed be nothing without it. trynd laughs at his ult and can fight for 5 more seconds. and a fed trynd is not what is used to. but can still do some damage. but with only the support getting exhaustmostly now a days. it gives some room for your ranged adc to do some damage. of course it some other factors too based on team comps


nasus also works too. less teams reliant then a trynd