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About nerf of vladmir in PBE server

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Nuker

Senior Member

09-14-2012

Hi.

vladmir just received some nerf in PBE server

and i think it's an inappropriate decision

Im aware of massive damage that he has in late game teamfights.

and his sustain ability.

However he is kind of like Karthus, ryze, and other high risk&high return champions.

Vladmir is very weak champion in early game

and in any chance if the opponent has gap-closer,

Vladmir will most likely lose the lane fight hard.

For this reason, you cant pick vladmir first before knowing whos gonna be your opponent

this means vladmir is not all round perfect champion.

playing him is very risky. But after he got his E nerfed

the damage is decreased to 60/85/110/135/160

from 60/90/120/150/180.

just looking at those numbers, people may say it's not a lot.

but considering his E damage gets % damage bonus with stacks

at stage of 4 stacks, his E damage is decreased by significant amount.

which not only harden his lane fight, but in team fights too.

In team fights, he is forced to throw himself into center of enemies.

like i said, he has to take that high risk of dying.

but if he could stay alive during the team fight, he got his risk paid back

but after the nerf, he now has less damage(talking of a lot of dmg considering stack bonus and considering it's an AOE skill)

and that loss of damage also causes less spell vamp, which means

he is now unlikely to survive in the center of enemies.

Now i when i play vladmir, i feel like hes not getting his effort paid back.

his lane fight is really tough, and even after he endure all that hard time,

he now STILL has to risk alot to gain less than before.

I wanna ask how people think and how riot think about this


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lemonpartyfan0

Senior Member

09-14-2012

Just for the record, PBE is for testing, so just because its on the PBE, doesn't mean 100% of the time its final.


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Nuker

Senior Member

09-14-2012

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**********fan0:
Just for the record, PBE is for testing, so just because its on the PBE, doesn't mean 100% of the time its final.



i am aware of that

but looking through past,

most of the changes(id say 80%)

actually get applied to main servers.

so im asking how people think

if this should be applied or not

i think it should not be


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lemonpartyfan0

Senior Member

09-14-2012

I don't think Vlad needs a nerf to be honest. But I am pretty confident in Riots balancing team. Why Vlad? I don't know.


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Nuker

Senior Member

09-14-2012

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**********fan0:
I don't think Vlad needs a nerf to be honest. But I am pretty confident in Riots balancing team. Why Vlad? I don't know.


vlad is really really hard champion to play. someone who is new to playing vlad will

prob only use less than 50% of potential that he has.

vladmir that is played right can do some serious dmg in teamfights and

turn the game upside down.

but this is only when he could endure all that hard lane fight,

AND when ur team knows what to do.

after the nerf i feel like.. wow... you are not getting your efforts paid back for

playing such hard champion with weakest lane fight ability.

and the problem with vladmir is that he is the main carry in late game

so he will be doing most of the damages and his teammates will help him to do it.

but the way of how vladmir fight makes him so unstable

one little mistake that he makes can totally destroy their team.

because number 1 priority to carry champs is to survive during the team fight.

however vladmir is different, he is indeed late game carry champ but

because of the way he fights, he has to throw him self into enemies. thus 1 mistake, or few stuns or silences can

send him to death and the winning game can suddenly become a losing game.

The nerf made this phenomenon even worse..

please riot, can you do more tests before you guys make any changes to him?


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Chaz5

Senior Member

09-14-2012

I am sorry

but this form

of typing

make my

eyes bleed


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Nuker

Senior Member

09-14-2012

Quote:
Chaz5:
I am sorry

but this form

of typing

make my

eyes bleed


is it the double-space that make your eyes bleed?
or is it my bad english?
im sorry for either reason.
im am not a native english speaker.


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lemonpartyfan0

Senior Member

09-15-2012

The english isn't bad, but you double space every line, and you shorten your sentences a lot. Not sure if on purpose of what.

Either way i think you are correct. He isn't easy, so I don't get the nerf either.


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Nuker

Senior Member

09-15-2012

Quote:
**********fan0:
The english isn't bad, but you double space every line, and you shorten your sentences a lot. Not sure if on purpose of what.

Either way i think you are correct. He isn't easy, so I don't get the nerf either.


Oh i see now that i did indeed shorten my senteces a lot rofl. i will try not to from now on. thx


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Rajaï

Senior Member

09-15-2012

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However he is kind of like Karthus, ryze, and other high risk&high return champions.


I loled !
You mean tanky ap champ have difficulty at early ???
Really ?


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