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Why Garen abilities have no cost?

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Kionashi

Senior Member

09-13-2012

I was wondering why he does not have mana poll? hes not even like vlad or Mundo who have life cost from his abilities...or like the ninjas that have energy is hard but you can still run out of energy in some situations.... being able to spam all your abilities with no repercussion does no sound fair at all


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Orîon

Senior Member

09-13-2012

why are you complaining solely about garen? there are several champions that don't use mana or energy or life or anything for their abilities.

including:
katarina
rengar
riven
tryndamere
shyvana
renekton
mordekaiser


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Vuther

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Because he's balanced around that with significant downtimes considering cooldowns despite being melee. Compare to Udyr, who uses mana has 6-second cooldowns on everything, and his damage ability buffs last 5 seconds. See also: Garen's ultimate.


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blissless

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
orionasdf:
why are you complaining solely about garen? there are several champions that don't use mana or energy or life or anything for their abilities.

including:
katarina
rengar
riven
tryndamere
shyvana
renekton
mordekaiser


rengar, tryn, renek and morde all use a resource for their abilities. in morde's case he literally kills himself.


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Autocthon

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
blissless:
rengar, tryn, renek and morde all use a resource for their abilities. in morde's case he literally kills himself.

Renekton Rengar and Tryn DO NOT HAVE RESOURCE COSTS

They have empowerment states. There is such a big difference it's ridiculous.

But yes, morde should not be on that list.


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IonDragonX

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
orionasdf:
why are you complaining solely about garen? there are several champions that don't use mana or energy or life or anything for their abilities.

including:
katarina
rengar
riven
tryndamere
shyvana
renekton
mordekaiser

You forgot R-r-r-r-rumble!!


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Not a Cobra

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
orionasdf:

mordekaiser


Level 18 morde does 175 damage to himself with a Q,W,E combo...
No costs at all....


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DoomScar

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
Not a Cobra:
Level 18 morde does 175 damage to himself with a Q,W,E combo...
No costs at all....


Assuming that you already have a lot of health, and has some spellvamp, it virtually doesn't cost anything.


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Kionashi

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
Vuther:
Because he's balanced around that with significant downtimes considering cooldowns despite being melee. Compare to Udyr, who uses mana has 6-second cooldowns on everything, and his damage ability buffs last 5 seconds. See also: Garen's ultimate.


kat does not have any long CD.....

I just think...why no mana? cd on garen are not so long (maybe the ult but I didnt check) also riven....that's why top lane is ruled by no mana based champs like morde,


now with fury based champs...i was thinking in a little tweak...they should burn fury to use their abilities so they have no "real cost" on the abilities but they have to autoatack minions or champs to refill the fury bar and being able to spam abilities...


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Unholy Fenrir

Senior Member

09-13-2012

Quote:
DoomScar:
Assuming that you already have a lot of health, and has some spellvamp, it virtually doesn't cost anything.


fuq ur stupid there still is a cost regardless of items you dopey muppet


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