Vayne top lane?!?!

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Diagnosis

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09-02-2012

Vayne is pretty weak bottom right? Hard for her to farm right? Graves, Ezreal, Corki, Caitlyn. All of them destroy Vayne and make it almost impossible for her to get to that late game unless your teammates are just doing exceptionally well.

Why not take her top lane? If your team can supply enough tankiness and a strong front line with the jungler/support combo she can dominate a lot of top lanes. You don't build conventional AD carry either. BT/PD would be too squishy.

You need 2 dorans blades, and TRINITY. Yes. Trinity. Why not? Her Q has a 2 second cooldown, and you should be using it on CD. That means your trinity proc is being used at 100% efficiency. Phage slow makes your kiting absolutely terrifying against some tops. If they don't have a super spammable gap closer and you are decent with Vayne you can get silver bolt after silver bolt after silver bolt. They try to run if they are losing the trade? Your passive + phage slow and movement speed from trinity punish them.

Another reason to put her top? She can farm. She can still get to that late game, but it will be easier because top champions cannot compete with her and trinity force. Bottom lane is too aggressive in today's meta, whereas top is about wave control, smart trades, and farming. Sure there are counter picks and counter play to every thing in the game, but she is much better top than bottom. People can lane switch, but most of the time they wont.

Vayne is pretty damn good at taking down high armor champions, even in the early stages of the game. Your top enemy will naturally build armor to counter you as opposed to damage. It won't matter, you can out trade their damage with good positioning and silver bolts will bypass their armor.

I was even considering an odd build for Vayne that would give her a decent chunk of tankiness and allow her to stay in fights for a very long time getting all of those juicy silver bolt procs off.

boots x3 pots -> 2x doran and Zerkers on first buy -> Vamp Scepter* -> Phage -> Zeal -> Trinity -> BT as a core build.

*get this if you need the sustain badly, otherwise get it when necessary.
Some situational items:

-Phantom Dancer - if you find yourself needing more attack speed (would go well with the tankier variant of the build, more silver bolts procing)
-Banshees Veil - strong AP or strong poke, obvious buy. Gives great health and mana since condemn uses a retarded amount of mana throughout the game.
-Guardian Angel - best defensive item in the game
-Infinity Edge - best ADC item in the game, but you are more of a bruiser type doing true damage to whatever target you can the entire fight, and that's why I suggest a PD as a better offensive item.
-Last whisper - again, great for normal ADC, but you are a true damage machine. Still very strong on her situationally.

If you build both BV/GA you can easily have over 150 armor and MR if your team has some aura items. That is ridiculously tanky! With trinity and a fully stacked BT you will have a good amount of health, lifesteal, and about 300 AD. If you opted for the phantom dancer you could be doing true damage to them insanely fast.

This build is centered around maximizing your true damage, the strongest part of her kit. Trinity complements her kiting and chasing abilities, and the GA/BV allow her to take on more of an assassin role in a teamfight taking out a high priority target like the AP or AD carry and still get out to tell the tale.

Don't disregard this because she's never been a top champion, and was an amazing ADC for the longest time. Her kit is still amazing and makes sense for a top assassin/carry type champion. If they buffed her base stats just a little bit she would be the perfect top champion.


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09-02-2012

then i gank you


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Porkcchop

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09-02-2012

It *can* work, but there are better choices.
COUGH JAYCE AND KAYLE COUGH


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IHAVEASHARK

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09-02-2012

you know theres a reason why vayne is weak bot lane

her base stats are **** and the only reason we have a "top" lane in this meta is because bruiser's base stats are so damn good


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Diagnosis

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09-02-2012

I'm sure you read the whole thing in <60 seconds.


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TheBronzeLegend

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09-02-2012

That's Phreak's son everyone. Everybody knows Trinity sucks on Vayne.


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Fubby2

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09-02-2012

Vayne is already a good toplane vs people with no large gapcloser.


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buttermilkpcakes

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09-02-2012

Works fine, until you go against an Irelia, Renekton, Malphite, Wukong, Jax, Jayce, Yorick, Xin, past 6 Singed,


who else am I missing


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B3YOND GODLIKE

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09-02-2012

trinity doesn't make a whole lot of sense on vayne

(i skimmed)


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Toxinia

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09-02-2012

I don't think you'd have much fun going against all the gapclosers up there.