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Jack of all trades, master of none.

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Wolfalisk

Member

08-26-2012

And then came Jayce, who was jack of all trades, master of a few.


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Infirc

Senior Member

08-26-2012

excepting that he is master of rocking bot lane and trading, you literally can't trade with Jayce.


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MyDeadGrandma

Senior Member

08-26-2012

*Buys frozen heart and Wardens on Durrius
*Find out his W overrides them.
*Buys Jayce with RP and proceed to beat Jax and stalemate Yorick botlane.


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Reynmaker

Senior Member

08-26-2012

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MyDeadGrandma:
*Buys frozen heart and Wardens on Durrius
*Find out his W overrides them.
*Buys Jayce with RP and proceed to beat Jax and stalemate Yorick botlane.


IP here.


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ShawNuff

Member

08-27-2012

Since you only get a hotfix if certified derpers carry high elo with them, you can expect either an overnerf in 2-3 patches or -5 to the base damage of some ability you rarely even use.


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Redeemed In Fire

Senior Member

08-27-2012

Quote:
MyDeadGrandma:
*Buys frozen heart and Wardens on Durrius
*Find out his W overrides them.
*Buys Jayce with RP and proceed to beat Jax and stalemate Yorick botlane.

Dunno where you got that, AS slows always stack multiplicatively. So 40% AS slow +35% AS slow + 35% AS slow + 20% AS slow = ~80% AS slow (btw, this is why AS slows are broken IMO; all you need is a single one to shut down an AD carry for its duration, and multiple ones mean that AD carry is putting out NO dps whatsoever).


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lbgsloan

Senior Member

08-27-2012

I didn't play for a few months. After seeing Jayce when I came back, he was the first missed release I picked up. Hey guys, lets take Nidalle but make her ult availible at level 1 and give all her skills 1.0 AD scaling. Throw in a % damage skill with insane knockback just so nobody can ever dream of trading with him. Sounds balanced.


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SpiderParadox

Senior Member

08-27-2012

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RCIX:
Dunno where you got that, AS slows always stack multiplicatively. So 40% AS slow +35% AS slow + 35% AS slow + 20% AS slow = ~80% AS slow (btw, this is why AS slows are broken IMO; all you need is a single one to shut down an AD carry for its duration, and multiple ones mean that AD carry is putting out NO dps whatsoever).

His W automatically gives him max attack speed. What he was trying to say is regardless how much his attack speed is slowed he's going to smack you for three times at max AS whenever his W is up.

Whether that's actually true or not I'm not sure...


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Redeemed In Fire

Senior Member

08-27-2012

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SpiderParadox:
His W automatically gives him max attack speed. What he was trying to say is regardless how much his attack speed is slowed he's going to smack you for three times at max AS whenever his W is up.

Whether that's actually true or not I'm not sure...

Part of what breaks AS slows (AFAIK) is that they cap max AS; as in, you can pump your way up to max AS, then f.e. a 20% AS slow means your AS cap is now 2.0 AS instead of 2.5. Thus, the slows above means that any autoattacker is shut down completely...

Cannon form W could possibly just override that and set AS to 2.5 though, not sure. 3 attacks is nice, but after that when you're not attacking and Darius is...


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DivineBovine

Senior Member

08-27-2012

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RCIX:
Part of what breaks AS slows (AFAIK) is that they cap max AS; as in, you can pump your way up to max AS, then f.e. a 20% AS slow means your AS cap is now 2.0 AS instead of 2.5. Thus, the slows above means that any autoattacker is shut down completely...

Cannon form W could possibly just override that and set AS to 2.5 though, not sure. 3 attacks is nice, but after that when you're not attacking and Darius is...




then you just go hammer form and knock his ass to next tuesday


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