Riot, why do you hate Sunfire Cape so much?

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FrozenRyan

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08-17-2012

I agree, sunfire isn't viable now...


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Seprest

Member

08-17-2012

The cape can easily do damage in the hundreds just by being near an opponent. You get it if you are an offtank that needs armor and HP, and think that the passive will be doing at least a few hundred damage to each opponent. Not to mention it REALLY helps clear lanes for some champions that otherwise might have difficulty doing so quickly.


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Cane Mint

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08-17-2012

that true dmg idea sounds really good for SC


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Dorsia

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08-17-2012

probably has something to do with riot wanting people to buy defensive items for tankiness and offensive items to do damage. if sunfire capes were strong like they used to then tanks would just be able to crush everything. omen now is also a lot weaker than it used to be. less health, cdr, and something else.


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Sir Bulldog

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08-17-2012

Probably Riot doesn't like them since ppl used to stack 6 of them during the beta. Now let's examine the math behind that:

A sunfire cape gives you 450 hp, 45 armor, and 40 constant dps around you.
Multiply everything by 6:

You get 2700 hp (Higher than the Warmog's Armor), 270 armor, and 240 constant effect dps in an area around you. That is pretty cheap. Now imagine stacking that on someone like cho-gath, or sion. The game quickly becomes un-balanced. Those heros' would never die.

And consider that the dps was even higher back then.


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slimjimo10

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08-17-2012

Maybe instead of doing 40 magic damage per second, have it do 20-30 true damage per second?


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Naju

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08-17-2012

True, this item is kinda trash compared to others


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Nykidemus

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08-17-2012

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Originally Posted by trackmaster View Post
I like changing it so a HOG transitions into it instead of a giants belt. Options are good.
As is the damage effect on Sunfire is the entirety of the combine cost, dropping the Giants Belt to Heart of Gold (or even just the health gem) would make it a much more attractive early option for junglers - which is really the only folks who really get it anymore. It's a super easy conversion.


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n1ightwa1ker

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09-10-2012

Ftw


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GurkenMAN

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09-10-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by trackmaster View Post
I like changing it so a HOG transitions into it instead of a giants belt. Options are good.
Good idea! Or just lower cost by 50-.100 would also help it become a better spot. Although its not completely terrible atm (consider it hitting 3 or more ppl it gives nice dps on fulltanks)

Edit: Another good start would be to make it turn-off-able. So u dont push unintentional or steal creeps from carry (if u rushed sfc)