Stuck in ELO Hell? Need pointers/help?

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MasterShad

Junior Member

08-09-2012

Here is my replay Akali Mid i have done my placement matches and i am stuck at 1110 elo hell.

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/699380/


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moonway

Senior Member

08-09-2012

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Originally Posted by HomeDizzle View Post
Sorry, one quick question before I submit a replay and discuss - How am I supposed to get a replay of my game in spectator mode?
If it will make the match much easier to observe, how is this possible?

Thanks
click the gears in top right, check "Record all Matches in SpecMode"


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pgsg00

Junior Member

08-09-2012

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/699823/
Definitely need help on this one!


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Duhizy

Senior Member

08-09-2012

i realise that your busy and your not gunna watch replays all day buttt........ y u skip my replay


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moonway

Senior Member

08-09-2012

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Originally Posted by duhizy View Post
i realise that your busy and your not gunna watch replays all day buttt........ y u skip my replay
To do list (in order of priority):

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/684998/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/696434/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/698792/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/699380/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/699823/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/678773/

Please be patient...
This is voluntary and I am getting nothing out of this, so I could just decide to not do any at all, but I am using my free time inbetween team practices to do this.


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Duhizy

Senior Member

08-09-2012

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Originally Posted by usadcuzubad View Post
To do list (in order of priority):

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/684998/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/696434/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/698792/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/699380/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/699823/
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/678773/

Please be patient...
This is voluntary and I am getting nothing out of this, so I could just decide to not do any at all, but I am using my free time inbetween team practices to do this.


Then u forever have my patients good sir.


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DittoBlaze

Member

08-10-2012

this is just a normal game but can you please have a look I would really like some advice. Help greatly appreciated

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/701884/

If your not gonna be able to do in the 24 hours can you please give an eta of when you will be finished

dont no why it is not in spec mode I have it ticked on options


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C00LST0RYBR0

Senior Member

08-10-2012

I lost about 13 games yesterday and won 1. The one I won was an Ad Ahri top lane, that we barely caried. If anyone still thinks matchmaking/ranking has anything to do with personal skill he must be retarded.

Unless you are a pro player you dont carry a team that feeds 10-15 death within the first 10 minutes (and all my games were like that yesterday). You simply can't offset the massive gold lead the enemy has. It's mathmatically almost impossible unless the enemy make some huge mistakes.

There is literally nothing I could have done... I'd say maybe 2 or 3 of those 13 could have been carried maybe by a 1800+ player but thats it.

Logged in today. Lost another 2 games. Really I haven't had a decent team in 15 games now. It doesn't even matter what I play or if I win my lane, or if I help the other lanes, they'll just all feed and feed and feed until we lose.

I'd really like to know how a pro player carries this... because I don't see how.


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Duhizy

Senior Member

08-10-2012

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Originally Posted by C00LST0RYBR0 View Post
I lost about 13 games yesterday and won 1. The one I won was an Ad Ahri top lane, that we barely caried. If anyone still thinks matchmaking/ranking has anything to do with personal skill he must be retarded.

Unless you are a pro player you dont carry a team that feeds 10-15 death within the first 10 minutes (and all my games were like that yesterday). You simply can't offset the massive gold lead the enemy has. It's mathmatically almost impossible unless the enemy make some huge mistakes.

There is literally nothing I could have done... I'd say maybe 2 or 3 of those 13 could have been carried maybe by a 1800+ player but thats it.

Logged in today. Lost another 2 games. Really I haven't had a decent team in 15 games now. It doesn't even matter what I play or if I win my lane, or if I help the other lanes, they'll just all feed and feed and feed until we lose.

I'd really like to know how a pro player carries this... because I don't see how.
Imo its pretty hard to carry teams like this when your playing top lane unless you literally manage to get really fed and carry every game which you dont seem to be doing. You might have a better chance carrying these types of teams if you were a really good jungler or mid player. I personally wouldnt play ad or top if your getting these kinds of teams because they both rely on the get really fed and carry principal and as you said maybe an 1800+ player could do that ever game.

Play strong early game gank jungler like lee sin, jax, nocturne and play mid laners that can push lane and roam to help other lanes like ahri,morg,tf,fizz and try to gain the early game advantage. Each elo range is different so u must find what would increase your win rate at each range and do it until u reach the next range.


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moonway

Senior Member

08-10-2012

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Originally Posted by duhizy View Post
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/684998/

I was fasting during this game so i lack any form of concentration or common sense lol. After i manage to eat most of the mistakes that i make in this game as well as my poor csing improve greatly but i still felt that even as that maybe that i should have been able to carry this game somehow. I ask that you be as cruel as u possible can in showing me how i could have done things differently too have won this one but also let me know what i could have change had i not made the obvious mistakes that i know i made as well as had better cs. Plz and thank you
Duhizy's Replay

Situations:
1:40- RESULT: missed exp CAUSE: didn't do golems. standing in the lane brush at lvl 1 only works at low level gameplay. You could have done golems as blue side (by kiting them and switching aggro) for a faster lvl 2 and more dominant laning phase
17:05- RESULT: died CAUSE: facechecked when their AP mid came down through a ward. You had an intent to 1v1 her, but that was a bad idea. AP carries can nuke down AD carries easily especially early game. You should be careful to confront an AP carry unless you are significantly ahead which you weren't. It was also a 3v2 because trynd was at golems and the enemy team was closing in. Luckily your team came ahead, but keep this in mind.
19:50- RESULT: died CAUSE: played way too aggressively without wards. You don't have to play that aggressive against a MF and Taric because both of those champions scale horribly (mf's steroid is horrible and has no escapes/survivability, taric is just a stun/aura bot).
22:10- RESULT: teammate died. CAUSE: chased way too long w/o vision again. You should have pinged your team to back.
30:00- RESULT: team dived and got 0 for 3'd CAUSE: they dived with baron. You should never really dive a team with that much aoe (zyra udyr mf taric). You should have told your team not to dive or pinged to back. Solo queue is all about taking control of your team and leading them to victory.

KEY THINGS:
- Don't play too aggressively or chase when you have no vision of the enemy.
- Group up with your team more. Split pushing late into the game will cause 5v4's for your team or barons and can cost you the game
Additional Notes:
- Against a taric/leona/blitz/ali (any kill lane), its better to take spellshield at lvl 2 to prevent you from dieing. the ricochet at lvl 1 barely does anymore damage and just pushes your lane.
- It's better to just save money for your BF sword than building a cloak of agility, because the upgrade cost from pick axe/cloak to an IE is 2k gold. Also, bf sword provides more sustained damage than pickaxe and better trading power.
- Don't sell your dorans for an zeal, because the dorans provides so much and sells back for so little. It's better to just keep it and farm another 200 gold for the zeal. At about 26:20 you did this and you were very squishy w/o your dorans. The only reason I would sell dorans is to buy a LW/QSS/GA because by that time you would be lvl 16-18 and your base stats will be much higher.
Strengths:
-Last hitting in EARLY laning phase(could be a little better but it is good as it is)
-Spellshielding

Weaknesses:
-Last hittting in MID-LATE game (after 18 minutes). You were ahead of MF by 30 cs early game and then were behind by 20 cs. (50 cs drop)
- Late game presence

It seems like you want to stay in laning phase when you're winning lane, which is good in most cases, but when you're team is losing without you, its a good time to help them a group. You missed out on about 3 teamfights that could not have been prevent because of zyra's initiation.