Team comps

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Der Eisbär

Member

09-16-2012

Does anyone know a good place to find information about the various team comps (like AoE or shield comps). I've have over 800 wins but I still wonder what situations (based on what the enemies picked so far etc) it would be best to pickup an AoE team comp or a shield comp or whatever.


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Shesocold

Senior Member

09-16-2012

personally I would chuck out a team comp that focuses on one type of ability and pick up something that focuses on supporting a couple champions while not hindering the team.
Example: Sivir and Jax in teamfights sivirs ult gives jax a great intiate while jax can make an excellent protector for sivir by jumping onto the enemy going after her.


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Essieu

Senior Member

09-17-2012

Just look at synergistic champs.

But here's a good team comp analyzed.

Poke Comp.
(run by Dignitas at NA Regionals)

Gragas
Caityln
Nidalee
Janna
Alistar

This team comp is designed to siege towers, and slowly take them down. And rely on disengaging any hard engage with Janna/Gragas/Alistar. All their champions are strong enough early to be able to contest buffs, push towers, win lanes, and overall force the enemy to play somewhat reserved.

Basically, Cait+Janna is a ***** to deal with and can push down a tower really fast. They can then transition to mid and force teams to gather.
After the grouping, they have the ability to poke down teams with Nidalee spears, traps, Gragas barrels, Cait Q's, and traps. Eventually poking a team down low enough to the point where they have to either back off, or Alistar can just Ult and dive them. Along with this, Gragas has very good wave clear. So everytime their wave will be easily pushed to tower, and Cait can get a couple free Auto's off with her long range. They also pack heals in the form of Gragas spells regenerating himself. Nid heals, and Alistar heals.
This team wants to avoid teamfights, and thus if the enemy tries to engage, Gragas ult, Janna slow, Q, and ult are all ranged disengages that work very well.

Ways to counter this Team Comp.

1.Morgana- Morgana's spell shield can make sure that someone doesnt get blown away by the poke comp's disengages, and her Q makes for a great engage in certain positions.
2.Skarner- Well, its Skarner.... Flash Ulti. Hardest engage in the game.
3.Soraka-If you can survive lane phase, she can help provide sustain to help you OUTSUSTAIN the poke team.
4.Anivia- Insane lane clear/Turtle power. instaclears waves before they reach tower preventing poke. And getting caught with her Q can spell death for someone late game.

Just think like this all the time. And you'll figure stuff out real quick.


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Der Eisbär

Member

09-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Essieu View Post
Just look at synergistic champs.

But here's a good team comp analyzed.

Poke Comp.
(run by Dignitas at NA Regionals)

Gragas
Caityln
Nidalee
Janna
Alistar

This team comp is designed to siege towers, and slowly take them down. And rely on disengaging any hard engage with Janna/Gragas/Alistar. All their champions are strong enough early to be able to contest buffs, push towers, win lanes, and overall force the enemy to play somewhat reserved.

Basically, Cait+Janna is a ***** to deal with and can push down a tower really fast. They can then transition to mid and force teams to gather.
After the grouping, they have the ability to poke down teams with Nidalee spears, traps, Gragas barrels, Cait Q's, and traps. Eventually poking a team down low enough to the point where they have to either back off, or Alistar can just Ult and dive them. Along with this, Gragas has very good wave clear. So everytime their wave will be easily pushed to tower, and Cait can get a couple free Auto's off with her long range. They also pack heals in the form of Gragas spells regenerating himself. Nid heals, and Alistar heals.
This team wants to avoid teamfights, and thus if the enemy tries to engage, Gragas ult, Janna slow, Q, and ult are all ranged disengages that work very well.

Ways to counter this Team Comp.

1.Morgana- Morgana's spell shield can make sure that someone doesnt get blown away by the poke comp's disengages, and her Q makes for a great engage in certain positions.
2.Skarner- Well, its Skarner.... Flash Ulti. Hardest engage in the game.
3.Soraka-If you can survive lane phase, she can help provide sustain to help you OUTSUSTAIN the poke team.
4.Anivia- Insane lane clear/Turtle power. instaclears waves before they reach tower preventing poke. And getting caught with her Q can spell death for someone late game.

Just think like this all the time. And you'll figure stuff out real quick.
Thanks man, is there a good place to find out what mechanics counter the different types of comps? I mean some of it's obvious like don't take a AoE comp against a gragas / janna team, but a counter to a shield comp or a comp based around split pushing is less apparent.


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AvariciousHippo

Junior Member

09-17-2012

Watch the pro-tourney games and note the champions. Join a 5-man ranked team and talk it over with your team. Note any 5-man teams' comp that seem to stomp extra hard.