do skills that deal physical damage work with life steal?

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Sylvrr

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07-25-2012

do skills that deal physical damage work with life steal? skills like urgot, xin, ashe, and so forth. does these skills heal you with life steal or is it only auto attacks?

also, spell steal only works with magic damage right? not just any spell? how about items that deal magic damage like wits end and sunfire cloak, do those proc spell steal?

thank you.


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Burbinator

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07-25-2012

Spell vamp and lifesteal are not tied to damage type but rather damage source. Abilities such as pan's spear throw will proc spellvamp, not lifesteal.

There are a few abilities that "act" like auto attacks in that they proc on hit effects (gangplank's parrrrley and ezreal's mystic shot) and in this case they will proc lifesteal, not spellvamp, but they are the exception and not the rule.

For the most part onhit effects will never proc spellvamp. however, there are a few abilities that SEEM to act like on hit effects but are counted as spells instead. This includes jax's ultiamte proc, and kassadin's W active (note that being counted as spells, they ALSO proc rylais similarly).

The way items work is kind of odd. But there are few direct damaging items so it doesn't really matter. AFAICT passive effects will not proc spellvamp (thornmail, sunfire) but active abilities will (Death fires grasp, gunblade).


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Sevgz

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07-25-2012

Not unless they apply on-hit effects (Gangplank/Ezreal's Q for example).

They DO work with spell vamp, but i wouldn't say you want to get that for, let's say, Ashe.

I hope that helps, have fun.


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Iron A1dan

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07-25-2012

Some skills specifically say "On hit effects work with this skill" or something along those lines.


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Sylvrr

Member

07-25-2012

thanks guys for the replys! so please tell me if i have this straight:

*auto attack always procs life steal
*most skills proc spellvamp, regardless of physical or magical damage
*most trigger items like deathgrasp and gunblade trigger spellvamp
*on hit items like wits end and ionic do not trigger spellvamp or life steal

sounds right so far?


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TehomCD

Senior Member

07-25-2012

Here's a pretty thorough listing of how most abilities break down:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/On-hit_effect


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Burbinator

Senior Member

07-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Sylvrr View Post
thanks guys for the replys! so please tell me if i have this straight:

*auto attack always procs life steal
*most skills proc spellvamp, regardless of physical or magical damage
*most trigger items like deathgrasp and gunblade trigger spellvamp
*on hit items like wits end and ionic do not trigger spellvamp or life steal

sounds right so far?
yes


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Panzerfaust

Emissary of the League

07-26-2012

One other thing to note: abilities that _are_ on hit effects, such as Teemo's Toxic Shot, apply neither life steal nor spell vamp. (The 'basic' portion of the basic attack will still benefit from life steal, but the extra damage from his E will not.)


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weltenspringer

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07-26-2012

Yes, they dont


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Sylvrr

Member

07-26-2012

thank you everyone for the info! its been enlightening.


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