What are todays standard ADC runes....?

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DeusAlkaiser

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07-18-2012

I have notice a lot of people moving to AD red runes + quints why is this so...? i assumed armor penetration red+ quints a lot better you get +25 armor penetration which makes you do more damage over all from level 1-max ?

am i wrong for still using the armor pens...?

i was thinking of getting AD quints with the ArP red runes + allready have flat armor yellow and Mresist blue, but how much will the 3 AD+ 3.33= 9.99 or 10 extra damage do compared to more armor penetration?


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Destabilizator

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07-18-2012

ADreds+quints/flat armor yellows/mr/lvl blues

Flat AD helps a last hitting and you'll buy LW anyway, so that flat arpen is somewhat negated and useful only early-mid game, where you as carry won't usually score, because of the ADC+nifty support lanes.


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Boomstick II

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07-18-2012

The armor penetration is probably better as long as you have no trouble keeping up in farm.

But if the enemy AD carry has more AD than you (from runes) and therefore happens to get more farm than you, then those armor pen runes won't be worth it.


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Ur little sister

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07-18-2012

There are several reasons. It used to be "not done" and that was it. Now people are doing it. Since people weren't idiots before, something must have changed, and things *have* changed!

1) playstyle. The laning phase has become lasthitting frenzy. Actual in-lane combat isn't what it used to be. Used to be about pushing, zoning and harassing, now it's about farming, zoning and denying. In straight-on fights, arpen tends to be better, but when lasthitting and short damage trades become more important, AD tends to rise in value
2) On the subject of short damage trades: AD scalings. Because of the popularity of AD scalings, AD is doing A LOT more than it used to.
3) It's all about lategame now. Players have found the best lategame build for AD's (which maximizes damage multiplication and uses Last Whisper for percentual armor pen). Flat Arpen scales badly with percentual arpen due to how penetration is calculated in LoL. Hence, armor pen runes have fallen off lategame compared to the old days (when they used to be considered the better lategame choice).


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Aikimiller

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07-18-2012

What everyone else has said.

Additionally, the shift of the meta-game towards a sustain and farm bot lane means that harass is less useful, particularly with the popularity of strong sustain supports like Soraka. And if you take hitting the opponent out of the equation, AD runes are better for farming.


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tist

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07-18-2012

Running ad marks/Flat armor/Flat mr/Armor pen quints

Im sure some variations work just fine too


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Kirielis

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07-20-2012

I think it changed after they changed the AD reds, or something. There was definitely a little bit of change in the runesets.


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XCodes

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07-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Aikimiller View Post
What everyone else has said.

Additionally, the shift of the meta-game towards a sustain and farm bot lane means that harass is less useful, particularly with the popularity of strong sustain supports like Soraka. And if you take hitting the opponent out of the equation, AD runes are better for farming.
Flat AD runes also, actually, do more damage for those first few levels in trades. The APen runes are strictly late-game picks.


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Huibrizzle

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07-21-2012

In almost every case, at every point in the game, ArPen reds + AD Quints will give you more damage.

Most ADs should run:
9x ArPen Reds
9x Flat Ar Yellows
9x (Whatever really) Mres/lvl
3x Flat AD quitns

This has been proven mathematically without a doubt several times.

http://clgaming.net/forums/board39-r...d-runes-redux/


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