New ELO point system

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Sam Is Whoa

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08-20-2012

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And no i would consider the field of expertise to be a huge factor between Hawkings and Gates, While you may think Hawkings is smarter, i think they excel in different fields of knowledge. Do you think Hawkings could make a computer? Do you think gates could theorize the same things Hawkings does?
Who says Bill Gates can make a computer. He bull headed windows not the personal computer. Hawking probably could make a PC OS. And no bill gates cant theorize about the universe so yeas hawking is smarter.


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Who says Bill Gates can make a computer. He bull headed windows not the personal computer. Hawking probably could make a PC OS. And no bill gates cant theorize about the universe so yeas hawking is smarter.
why are we even arguing about this...


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TaironLocke

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08-26-2012

Thinking...thinking...sounds pretty good. The glaring issue is of course with supports. Now, A good support should have 20+ assists in a game and a low amount of deaths so I am not sure if peoepl have a legitimate claim there. The issue is people will be trying for assists, lots. Hitting everyone twice in winnign matches instead of focusing down like you are supposed to. Also, assists arent a very good meter of anything. Amumu gets off a good ult resulting in an ace. Four maybe five assists. He gets +2 for a good ult? Any aoe ult really. Or any AOE for that matter. But I like that peopel talk about the Elo issue. Definitely not a good descriptor when it comes to skill. Its all just win %. While at the same tiem you multiply that by how much you play. So, someone could have a 70% win ratio adn be lower than someone with a 51% Win ratio who has played 12 times as many games. Moreover, the idea that you can place someone in elo after a few matches is absolutley ludicrous. How many summoners are screwed over into elo hell for a season every reset? Not fair ranking system.


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Minrat

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NO-your system is not an ELO system. read this http://na.leagueoflegends.com/learn/...ay/matchmaking and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

You can ask for a new rating system-go ahead-but STOP CALLING IT ELO.


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Minrat

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In terms of actual feedback: the system we have now is good. There is lots of maths behind it. The higher the average rating of the opposing team in reference to your own, the more rating you get for a win. The higher your teams average rating, the less you get.

K/D/A is not an accurate representation of skill. Supports are supposed to sacrifice themselves to save their carries-this does not do that.

Surrendering should not punish you-that is not the point of surrendering. When more than 70% of the team wants to surrender, it is granted as it has been seen as a loss and time is saved. therefore there should be no penalty. Tower kills also should not matter-the only thing that determines whether you win or lose is the nexus. this means that killing the nexus should be the only thing that gets you Elo.

Your reasons are admirable, but the only way to accurately determine an appropriate rating is more than 500 games played with focus on nexus kills and opposing Elo.

EDIT:Having read some of the other criticism and your response-if you get criticism, use it constructively. all you have done is say something along the lines of 'no-iv'e already covered that' When in fact you haven't covered it properly-otherwise we would not telling you again.


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NO-your system is not an ELO system. read this http://na.leagueoflegends.com/learn/...ay/matchmaking and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

You can ask for a new rating system-go ahead-but STOP CALLING IT ELO.
Come up with a new name for it then. I was just using Elo so people knew what i was talking about.