so adc kayle bot is now trolling?

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hman497

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07-03-2012

so having 4 people dodge que and say im trolling by picking kayle bot against vayne sine when did kayle become so bad was there a patch i didnt read?


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Ask the Monkey

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07-03-2012

AD Carry Kayle > Everything Forever


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Borigrad

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07-03-2012

Kayle is picked top because she can take advantage of melee champions despite her short range.

People dodging your Kayle pick bot lane is because Kayle has the shortest range out of any true "ADC" at 525 (shared with graves). It has nothing to do with Trolling, it's just cause it sucks. Plus you only have that Range for a short amount of time, compared to Graves who has it all of the time plus strong wave clear.


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Wretched One

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07-03-2012

You will miss tons of cs bot and the other ad will snowball because they always have range and you have to itemize for it, which wastes gold that you want to be going toward damage.


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Lord Tumbles

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07-03-2012

itd be a fine pick if the support picked accordingly...


if they dont tho its them that sucks not kayle.


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Darkness4910

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07-03-2012

ADC sounds like a disease.


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Felaedor

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07-03-2012

Why put Kayle Bot when you could just have two carries and guarantee a win top lane at the same time?


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Stark24

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07-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Wretched One View Post
You will miss tons of cs bot and the other ad will snowball because they always have range and you have to itemize for it, which wastes gold that you want to be going toward damage.
You should never be itemizing for CDR on Kayle. Ever.

You build the same damage you would as a carry. Instead of focusing on keeping E up, you focus on doing as much damage as possible while its up.

I've done Kayle bot. Honestly, it isn't half as bad as people think it is. She needs to be laned with an aggressive support to take advantage of her harass (Leona is a great pick).

Also, for the "other ranged carries are ranged all the time". Thats arguable. A good Kayle with an aggressive support isn't using E to farm (unless theres a considerable risk of taking a lot of damage). This means that when that carry somes to harass, you should be ready to turn around and lay down your own damage (which will be higher than theirs thanks to your E and Q damage amplification).

The difference between Kayle working and failing bot all depends on your management of E. If you're using it constantly to farm, you'll find you'll never have it when you need it.


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Ozbirta

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07-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Stark24 View Post
You should never be itemizing for CDR on Kayle. Ever.

You build the same damage you would as a carry. Instead of focusing on keeping E up, you focus on doing as much damage as possible while its up.

I've done Kayle bot. Honestly, it isn't half as bad as people think it is. She needs to be laned with an aggressive support to take advantage of her harass (Leona is a great pick).

Also, for the "other ranged carries are ranged all the time". Thats arguable. A good Kayle with an aggressive support isn't using E to farm (unless theres a considerable risk of taking a lot of damage). This means that when that carry somes to harass, you should be ready to turn around and lay down your own damage (which will be higher than theirs thanks to your E and Q damage amplification).

The difference between Kayle working and failing bot all depends on your management of E. If you're using it constantly to farm, you'll find you'll never have it when you need it.
If you are trying to melee for cs against a normal sustain comp (with a brain) bot, you are going to get poked out of lane. If you fail to net a kill before your health pots run out, you just lost the lane.


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CheesyChipsy

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07-03-2012

There is so much wrong in a lot of posts, it's horrible to see. Kayle bot is good, and is especially amazing versus Vayne (it is a good counterpick), because you can just get her out of the lane so easily.

Pair her with an aggressive laner, everytime. You need it because you can kill: you can do it actually a lot easier than other AD carries early on, because 35% slow is there for 4 seconds at level 2 already, not even mentioning no AD carry can compete with Kayle early on, damage-wise.

Taric, Janna, Soraka, Nunu, Lulu, Sona all work with ADC Kayle bot lane. Just need to know what you're doing but it's fine.


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