What counters darius?

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Shaxtenn

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07-02-2012

Health + armour is better than armour vs Darius, imo, so you want Randuin's rather than Frozen Heart.

Many mages can outrange him (eg. Janna, Cass, Lux, Viktor, AP Kog, Lulu), but tend to have the problem that getting pulled = certain death. Same goes for ranged ADs, who are less able to exploit their range than mages, as they need to be in autoattack range for longer to whittle down minions than mages do to nuke them. So they can do it - as long as they play perfectly and never get hooked.

The problem is it's harder for a mage (or ranged AD) to itemise defensively and keep up some offensive power, than for a bruiser to do the same. Particularly when the mage wants both health AND armour, and can't simply fold either Rylai's or FH/Hourglass into a standard mage build.

Have you tried some of the more bruisey mages? Maokai, Gragas, Cho'gath, Nunu, AD Malz. These champs suffer less than the others if they end up in melee range.

Heimerdinger is able to build full defense and still push waves, due to the high base stats on turrets. It's a gimmick build, combining items like FoN and Randuin's with his regen passive (Heimer rivals Mundo for health regen, if you build him for it), but it works, sort of. His turrets may get chopped down too easily by Darius though, so I wouldn't recommend this.

I'd also suggest Nasus. Triforce, not AP - AP Nasus is useless in an engage, and Darius's power comes from forcing engages. Like Poppy, once Nasus finishes Triforce, he can go full defensive and still be powerful offensively, provided he farms up a couple of dozen minions with SS. Nasus's ult somewhat counters Darius's, giving him 600 bonus health at max rank (vs the 680-1000 true damage of Darius). And Nasus happens to be decent against Yorick, and can do ok vs several other common bot lane picks.


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FOODFOOD

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07-02-2012

Totally forgot this - Kayle does GREAT against Darius. The feeling you get when you ult while his is in animation - his goes on CD and you're sitting pretty.


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Wyrmnax

Junior Member

07-02-2012

Best way to counter Darius is to kite him.

He is deadly IF you get to him. His apreend is long range, yes, but it is also on a high CD.

If you can outrange him, get a slowing item and kite.

If you cant outrange him, you will need some form of CC to get away. Pref. a Stun so he cant Decimate you running away.

Alistar is particularly effective. He pulled you? Pulverize, punch, headbutt him away.

So, either outrange him and slow kite, or stun him and get away.

Trying to outmelee him is doable, but very hard and only on very specific champions.


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Youdeadfoo

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07-02-2012

Any ranged can kite darius to death. Just pick at him like a lil bish!


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Nerdock

Senior Member

07-03-2012

I like how the entire debate on the first page is fully jax vs darius. essentially the end question from that debate: hm, which champ is more op? the massively fast attacker with the only dodge mechanic in game, or the stacking +125% true dmg ult with bleeds that circumvent every defense except health stacking in game. gee. at this point, who cares.


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FetisPuncher

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07-03-2012

Once played a game were i towered dived a Darius while playing Amumu.. and won..

and a Yorick at the same time.. True story.


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urmamasllama

Senior Member

07-03-2012

nunu in theory
darius is a hard to counter to jax (atk speed slow is the most impotant thing to it) so thats off the list
long range poke AD carries do well too namely corki ez and cait because they can stay out of grab range and if they happen to get caught they have dashes out


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Pregnaloons

Senior Member

07-05-2012

Sivir would do fairly well, her AA range isn't the best, but her Q and W poke are great, and push the lane significantly, plus you could negate his ulti/pull/spin with good prediction (Or incredible reflexes+ping).

Alternatively Udyr also pushes bot lane really well and can his turtle can help to absorb his spin and ulti, as well as just being very good in 1v1. Darius is forced to get into melee range as well and so can't kite Udyr like ranged AD's can.


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MMKH

Senior Member

07-05-2012

I'd guess try playing a good AP who can kite him with slows or Rylai's while clearing the creep waves. Durrius doesn't have as much sustain as some AD carries who rely on AS and lifesteal, so probably win with poke and attrition.


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GreyJulius

Junior Member

08-02-2012

Darius Counters: Kennen, Malphite, AP Master Yi, Olaf, Riven, and Yorick.

Good against Darius: Dr. Mundo, Garen, Lee Sin, Maokai, Nasus, Nidalee, Renekton, Udyr, Shen, and Tryndamere.