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Support selection -- Is Alistar always superior to Soraka?

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Etherimp

Senior Member

06-04-2012

Soraka's largest advantage over Alistar during the laning phase is that of ranged harass/zoning.

Ranged Supports (such as Soraka, Jana, Sona, etc) can sit in a bush and easily zone out the enemy carry.. Every time they step in to last hit a minion, you pop out of the bush for a brief moment and harass them from range. It's only a little damage at a time, but after a while, it starts to add up and your lane begins to gain the advantage.

Alistar, Taric, and Leona cannot do this. Their "zoning" comes from the POTENTIAL of deadly CC coming your way... If your enemy can sustain through or otherwise counter the CC, then it nullifies their presence in the bush and they can be forced out of it. A good Soraka, however, cannot be as easily thwarted, and she can deal damage without receiving any in return.

So, let's say you're Soraka and Sivir vs Alistar and Graves.

If Alistar takes the bush, Soraka wards the bush.

Now Sivir can see when Alistar is going for a knockback, and she can spellshield it.. Likewise, Soraka can silence Alistar after the knockback to ensure he doesn't get a knockup as well, and she can directly heal Sivir assuming Graves dashes in and does some AOE damage.

Now your enemies have blown the majority of their cooldowns, and wasted mana and time last hitting in order to harass, and they are both in close range to Sivir, who hasn't lost a lot of HP and has plenty of mana (thanks to Soraka's mana battery).. Now Sivir unleashes her cooldowns and auto-attacks pushing both of the enemy champions back, while Soraka helps by auto-attacking them from range as well.

Sivir and Soraka win this exchange, and Soraka takes the bush.. Now Alistar is stuck sitting back by the tower spamming heals on Graves while he tries to last hit, because Sivir is randomly throwing her spammable Q and W at Graves, and Soraka is popping out of the bush every few seconds to auto-attack Graves, taking small chunks off his health bar with every attack..

Alistar can't keep up.. Graves and Alistar soon start to run low on mana and health, while Sivir is still full health, full mana, and Soraka only rarely needs to heal anyone now because Sivir isn't getting harassed nearly as hard as graves.

While a lane like this could surely go both ways, it's just an attempt to illustrate the strength an intelligent/skilled Soraka has when combined with a champion/player that she synergizes well with.

Neither Soraka nor Alistar are the best combination for EVERY lane comp or team comp.. But yes, if your team needs a tanky initiator/disruptor and a support champ with some sustain, Alistar is fantastic..

Alistar + Vayne lane is VERY scary to go up against. Knockback, Condemn into wall, and a knockup if you try to escape, combined with Vayne's DPS... easy kills.


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Personsir

Senior Member

06-04-2012

Soraka is my go-to support if I need to carry. Alistar I only play if I can trust my ad carry to be good.

With Soraka, you can much more easily save your teammates (your carry and your other teammates) than you can with Alistar, IMO. On the other hand, if your carry is good, Alistar gets a lot of kills in addition to babysitting, as opposed to, say, Blitz, who pretty much is only good for getting a ton of kills.


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acosn

Senior Member

06-04-2012

Soraka's better against passive lanes, Alistar's better against more aggressive ones.


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TehJackAttack

Senior Member

06-04-2012

Promote soraka! heal that super cannon minionnnnnnn


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