One Tier List to rule them all

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Kohelet

Senior Member

07-10-2012

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Originally Posted by DiscworldDeath View Post
Yes, that's why it's called a nerf and not a rebalance
Ya I know, but I have never played him.

Some champs Ults are less powerful and so the nerf would hurt them less.

Karth seems fairly Ult dependent, but I am no expert.


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Panwar

Senior Member

07-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Kohelet View Post
Ya I know, but I have never played him.

Some champs Ults are less powerful and so the nerf would hurt them less.

Karth seems fairly Ult dependent, but I am no expert.
He's not ult dependent at all. I would actually say his passive is a larger part of his gameplay than his ult. If you brought a Karthus to a game whose R button was broken you would still have a champion capable of delivering some of the highest sustained aoe magic damage in the game, an extremely strong poke, a teamfight changing wall of slow/mr reduc, and a champion who keeps doing all of this stuff 7 seconds after he is killed. His ult is just the gravy really.


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Volandum

Senior Member

07-11-2012

Karthus bot's attraction is in his ult (Cass is similar but without the global influence), but Karthus top is all about the rest of his kit.


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Panwar

Senior Member

07-11-2012

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Karthus bot's attraction is in his ult (Cass is similar but without the global influence), but Karthus top is all about the rest of his kit.
Yah, I agree with that. Closer to Soraka bot though, than Cass.


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Quincunx

Senior Member

07-11-2012

Though Soraka has a stronger bot lane presence in exchange for a weaker global ult on Dominion (though hers is instant).


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paunocu666

Junior Member

07-14-2012

Wait... in high ELO Yorick is Tier 5 for top lane? What kind of black sorcery is that?


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Tortferngatr

Senior Member

07-14-2012

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Wait... in high ELO Yorick is Tier 5 for top lane? What kind of black sorcery is that?
Tier 5 - Should start in bot lane, but could swap later. Basically the no-placement tier of top lane.

If you can successfully argue that Yorick is capable of working as a primary top laner (like Karthus can, and he also once shared the Tier 5 spot in part because he was primarily considered a bot laner,) then you can probably get him higher.

Mordekaiser and Udyr aren't too good at first up top, but they're much better at bot laning.


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MaximumTacolord

Member

07-14-2012

I've just started playing Dominion again so I'm happy to see there is someone telling me who to play. Though if you're still playing regularly you're queues must be insane by now Sauron.


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Kohelet

Senior Member

07-14-2012

Thanks for the Karth responses, I appreciate your opinions.

I can almost afford him, so I'm excited to try him out soon.


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Kayleorfeed

Senior Member

07-15-2012

wheres yi