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@Morello so about Vayne

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Bjöörn

Senior Member

05-25-2012

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Leib Olmai:
Yep.

If you are using only 2 tournament, and one of them is pretty old...
Considering there's ALOT of them that have been played since then... especially hannover, I don't even know why you even mentionned it.
Plus why would you even talk about tournament-level balance ? When it's doesn't affect you - at all. And actually don't know anything about it...

If they want advice on how to change Vayne accordingly to tournament level, they won't listen to random people in this thread but will directly ask Pro AD carry.
Note that they don't only balance the game around tournament, they sometime need balance it around every single level of play.

Riot have to consider NA, EU, Asia. And more than just your little sample of game.

Okay, have you heard what Doublelift and Yellowpete said about Vayne's weaknesses? Guess not, they're pro AD carry players, right?


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XtremeApocalypse

Senior Member

05-25-2012

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Vale Tudo:
They also have long range skills that can zone out vayne completely.


Vayne can easily dodge ashe ults though and in a 1v1 situation she beats both of them.


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Bjöörn

Senior Member

05-25-2012

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XtremeApocalypse:
Vayne can easily dodge ashe ults though and in a 1v1 situation she beats both of them.

Are you serious? Ashe ultimate hit box is a lot bigger than Vayne's tumble. It's not easy to dodge, and if it hits you. You will be dead for sure. Old Vayne could probably 1v1 both too and dodge Ashe ultimate because she had the movement speed.


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ìćęŃ

Senior Member

05-25-2012

oh look i said this 6 months ago when the nerf actually happened

slowbro.jpeg sheep.jpeg downvote stfu


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Hustler x1

Senior Member

05-25-2012

Agreed
The nerfs to her were completely unfair since she's the only champion in the game without a single AOE damage / team buff ability :/
Her damage isn't even that high and she doesn't have any real burst (unless you count someone standing with 2 silver bolt stacks right next to a wall waiting ti be condemed a burst)
The only thing that she was good at is chasing a target (cause you know she's a night hunter and all) untill Riot decided to nerf that AND her allready relativly low single target damage :l

So yes i believe she's VERY lacking now
+1 :3


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Dotaa Angel

Senior Member

05-25-2012

Buff


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TornadoOfBees

Senior Member

05-25-2012

Quote:
Bjöörn:
Are you serious? Ashe ultimate hit box is a lot bigger than Vayne's tumble. It's not easy to dodge, and if it hits you. You will be dead for sure. Old Vayne could probably 1v1 both too and dodge Ashe ultimate because she had the movement speed.


I'm sorry, but if tumble and a single step isn't enough to get you out of ashe ult, you tumbled the wrong direction. She was perfectly fine and won just fine directly after the nerfs. The game is just changing and what she brings to the table isn't what's needed anymore. If you buff her in any significant way without changing her mechanics the game will just go back to godtier roflstomp vayne.


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Dotaa Angel

Senior Member

05-25-2012

bump it so that vayne get buffed


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SpaceDink

Senior Member

05-25-2012

Bump to return movement speed and damage.


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Hustler x1

Senior Member

05-25-2012

Bump :3