Tryndamere Buff/Legendary skin

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Lícantropo

Senior Member

05-27-2012

Agree with most of the OP, except by claiming that "Q" is the worst heal and not reliable to sustain in lane.

The big problem Trynd had(still have) is Pub, why? Because in braindead games he tend to carry a lot (just like Akali), then when people realize this, they past 15 minutes and it's already too late.

But INSTEAD of learning how to counter, they come here, QQ a lot, and then the barbarian suffer some changes to make him more "viable to be against".

The problem? The active community, after seeing that he seldom make to the top in ranked see now a withered champ that can scale SOME damage, but since he relies too much on items to make it worthwhile, and of course good-players know how to counter/not feed him easily pin him making him useless.

How to fix it? Undone some of the nerfs (keep guessing which ones), then players stop using their generic "anti-carry" builds and find an (easy) way to deal with him that requires half a brain. Braindead gains half a brain and people keeps playing without much trouble.

And for those who claim that Trynd is fine as he is, obviously you are not playing with him right now.


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Venidium

Member

05-28-2012

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Originally Posted by Lícantropo View Post
Agree with most of the OP, except by claiming that "Q" is the worst heal and not reliable to sustain in lane.

The big problem Trynd had(still have) is Pub, why? Because in braindead games he tend to carry a lot (just like Akali), then when people realize this, they past 15 minutes and it's already too late.

But INSTEAD of learning how to counter, they come here, QQ a lot, and then the barbarian suffer some changes to make him more "viable to be against".

The problem? The active community, after seeing that he seldom make to the top in ranked see now a withered champ that can scale SOME damage, but since he relies too much on items to make it worthwhile, and of course good-players know how to counter/not feed him easily pin him making him useless.

How to fix it? Undone some of the nerfs (keep guessing which ones), then players stop using their generic "anti-carry" builds and find an (easy) way to deal with him that requires half a brain. Braindead gains half a brain and people keeps playing without much trouble.

And for those who claim that Trynd is fine as he is, obviously you are not playing with him right now.
Couldn't agree with you more.


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halokiller117

Junior Member

05-28-2012

Lol buff tryndamere


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Shave

Junior Member

05-28-2012

Bottom line, he's literally one of the worst AD champions. Here's why:

- Tryndamere is dependant on early game kills. If he doesn't get the gold, he's completely useless late game.

- Tryndamere gets absolutely devoured in lane when against the opposition if they play aggressively.

- Tryndamere is almost completely luck based early game, meaning that you rely on a small chance to crit.

- Tryndamere is FAR too easy to counter. Since is his relatively squishy, usually a champion with relatively good CC would smash him.


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Seungsei

Senior Member

05-29-2012

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Thanks for agreeing! But can you explain why the fury mechanism and legendary skin should stay?
The Fury mechanic is interesting. It could easily be tweaked to work and therefore doesn't need to be abandoned.

The Legendary skin is awesome in my opinion and doesn't need to be changed either.

That said, I support the primary reason for your thread which is to buff Tryndamere.


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Shave

Junior Member

05-29-2012

Bump!


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Ssenkrad II

Senior Member

05-29-2012

If we had:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2153130
We wouldn't have people saying "oh no, he isnt op!" when everyone could see that a brand new champ (one that people have yet to master) was at 1600 ELO... Just saying that your arguements are awesome, but don't really matter as with any champion who is OP or UP according to the community- Riot still wont change champs based soley off what the community says (despite what people might think) and there will always be those who don't want to see a nerf or a buff because it betters themself and the champs they like to play- regardless of if it is true or not. Atleast with what i was suggesting the facts of if a champ really was OP or UP as a KIT, not just one ability or just one person who had a good game, would be very obvious....


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Seungjae

Member

05-29-2012

Tryndamere's Q heals a lot and can save you from an ignite on an ult. You probably don't know how to use it.

Tryndamere's W is great for chasing. And who the hell runs from an enemy as Tryndamere? Either E away or start pummeling him down to a bloody pulp like you were suppose to do!!!

Tryndamere's E is great for escaping, as it can pass through walls. The damage is ok.

Tryndamere's R is great for just beating down somebody even if they manage to bring you down to 1 hp. Easy to counter with an Ignite? SCREW IGNITE KILL THEM FIRST AND THEN BLOODLUST BACK TO 200 HP AND LIFESTEAL BACK TO FULL

Most people are scared of Tryndamere and will let you get your fury by keeping a distance (which is a huge mistake by the way). Even if they deny you, R gives you fury anyway. Plus, fury is better than Mana anyway, so why even complain about that?

As for his stats, it's because Tryndamere has the god dam high CRITS. So multiply his damage by 2 (2.5 if the Tryn has Infinity Edge). That's some decent damage there.

You said he can be countered with armor. NO ****T HES AD DUMBASSS!!!! Plus, they wouldn't be massing armor to take up their build if you have some decent AP allies.

The only thing I have to agree with you is on the Legendary Skin. It's fukin ugly. Poppy looks sexier in her classic, and poppy is fat.


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Seungjae

Member

05-29-2012

oh yeah and that movement speed thing, you get a phantom dancer ******


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Venidium

Member

05-29-2012

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Originally Posted by Seungjae View Post
Tryndamere's Q heals a lot and can save you from an ignite on an ult. You probably don't know how to use it.

Tryndamere's W is great for chasing. And who the hell runs from an enemy as Tryndamere? Either E away or start pummeling him down to a bloody pulp like you were suppose to do!!!

Tryndamere's E is great for escaping, as it can pass through walls. The damage is ok.

Tryndamere's R is great for just beating down somebody even if they manage to bring you down to 1 hp. Easy to counter with an Ignite? SCREW IGNITE KILL THEM FIRST AND THEN BLOODLUST BACK TO 200 HP AND LIFESTEAL BACK TO FULL

Most people are scared of Tryndamere and will let you get your fury by keeping a distance (which is a huge mistake by the way). Even if they deny you, R gives you fury anyway. Plus, fury is better than Mana anyway, so why even complain about that?

As for his stats, it's because Tryndamere has the god dam high CRITS. So multiply his damage by 2 (2.5 if the Tryn has Infinity Edge). That's some decent damage there.

You said he can be countered with armor. NO ****T HES AD DUMBASSS!!!! Plus, they wouldn't be massing armor to take up their build if you have some decent AP allies.

The only thing I have to agree with you is on the Legendary Skin. It's fukin ugly. Poppy looks sexier in her classic, and poppy is fat.
You're ignorant. You just reversed the intent of our concern and claimed it true. Where is the proof? Where is the logical evidence that shows his Q heals a lot and saves Tryndamere from an ignite? W is great for chasing but when you're playing in 1600+ ELO ranked games, the summoners are usually smart and know how to counter a Tryn. They don't let you farm, they deny you. They don't let you get fury, they attack you. They don't let you get fed, they feed off you. Maybe in low ELO games can these sort of situations exist but in high ELO ones, absolutely not. E, great escape - sure but the damage is not ok, it's utterly useless. Touching on your comment about the armor, it is true that AD champs get countered with armor but it is Tryn that gets countered the hardest. Adding on to his countless counters is a Thornmail that pretty much tells Tryn "you hit me hard, I hit you back harder." Movement speed, not a big issue, I'm more concerned with his attack range. Still, a phantom dancer comes mid/late game and if you are constantly being denied, killed, and harassed then this point will be unreachable.

BTW, thanks for agreeing on the legendary skin.