[NEW item SUGGESTION] - ECHO WARD (consumable)

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SPEKTR1986

Senior Member

02-27-2012

DEAR PLAYERS, IF YOU LIKE THIS POST, PLEASE "BUMP" - so REDs, GREENs, BLUEs, RIOT could see this post also!
THX!


[B]Will be interesting to look:
[U]http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=1442296 - game changes suggested
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=1849156 - new game mode and map


ECHO WARD - Shows enemy (even stealthed) on map mini map without revealing area on a map - works only on enemy champions (also their clones, ghosts, ...)

Players will see moving red circle (or any other noticeable mark - e.g. pinging small dot) every 5-10 sec

If unit is moving in a bush and in ward zone - also will be detected
doesn't detect through walls, hidden objects (wards, turrets, box, ...), neutral creeps or static units (static enemy champions)

Important: ward never shows what kind of unit and never reveal it; Ward only shows it's current moving position

Role: New ward type
PRO: cheap; longer working range than sight ward; detects stealth champions; detects champions in the bush without being placed there;
CON: can't detect static units (even if attacking) or neutral creeps (even if moving); doesn't reveal area; doesn't reveal what kind of enemy unit,

Characteristics:
3 HP
cost: 70g
range; 1100
last: 3 min

ECHO WARD can be detected by vision ward or oracle elixir
Can be affected by SCOUT mastery
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The most easiest way: IMAGINE SONAR (also known as ECHO-LOT or HYDRO-LOCATOR) pictures!

HERE SOME RANDOM PICTURES FROM INTERNET:

http://design-allnn.ru/uploads/posts...8e3xd5w6go.jpg

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbvie...an-monitor.jpg

OR SOME SIMILAR EFFECT VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWANK...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZGos...eature=related
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DEAF WARD

also works as ECHO WARD, but shows nothing at all! instead, it makes sound that only ward owner can hear! can be detected as other wards! price and characteristics same as ECHO WARD are the same!
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P.S. any characteristics or other stuff can be easily changed! So, PLEASE, write your suggestion/opinion before just down-voting!


BUMP, so we get new interesting consumable!
(WE CAN TEST IS IN PBE)


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SPEKTR1986

Senior Member

02-27-2012

added 6/14/2012

DEAF WARD

also works as ECHO WARD, but shows nothing at all! instead, it makes sound that only ward owner can hear! can be detected as other wards! price and characteristics same as ECHO WARD are the same!

added 17/7/2012


range decreased to 1100 from 1200
price increased to 70 from 60


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Wolfenix

Senior Member

02-27-2012

It's sound in theory, but honestly I think the current wards are fine. I get the idea, and even like it, but unnecessary changes are bad changes. Even the smallest items can have a big impact on the game, so if it's not broken, don't fix it.


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SPEKTR1986

Senior Member

02-29-2012

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Originally Posted by Wolfenix View Post
It's sound in theory, but honestly I think the current wards are fine. I get the idea, and even like it, but unnecessary changes are bad changes. Even the smallest items can have a big impact on the game, so if it's not broken, don't fix it.
1st: thx for opinion!

2nd: we still have PBE! it is special testing server, then why not use it!

RIOT said somewhere, that they constantly monitoring games on PBE.
If players and RIOT will like it, doesn't disrupt game platform and game itself - new ward should go REAL!

Lets try to give a chance!


AND, PEOPLE, BE MORE ACTIVE! WE ARE WHO MAKES GAME! (at least partially!)
(-:


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The Blue Jelly

Senior Member

02-29-2012

I like the idea, it's neato and since I usually throw my wards down outside of bushes anyways just to get the heads-up that they're heading to my lane, this would actually be better for me than sight wards O_o

EDIT: should probably note this is when I AP Mid. 150 gold per trip just so I can be aggressive adds up, man D=


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SPEKTR1986

Senior Member

03-02-2012

The most easiest way: IMAGINE SONAR (also known as ECHO-LOT or HYDRO-LOCATOR) pictures!

HERE SOME RANDOM FROM INTERNET:

design-allnn.ru/uploads/posts/2010-06/8e3xd5w6go.jpg

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbvie...an-monitor.jpg


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JustMyBassCannon

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Senior Member

03-02-2012

It's an interesting concept...but unless it's a really long range radar it's not going to be very useful.

For a comparison, Starcraft 2 has a building with a similar effect for the Terrans, it detects any units in the fog of war. It doesn't designate teams or anything, you just see red marks that point out where things are. Its sight range is long enough that it can see something coming at least 10 seconds in advance.

Thing is, in LoL, it would be quite difficult to find that "sweet spot" range where it's strong enough to detect a stealth champion more than 2 seconds before they've gone to work on tanning your hide, but not so long range that it may as well be an extremely long-range Vision ward.


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sugarcrotch

Senior Member

03-02-2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfenix View Post
It's sound in theory, but honestly I think the current wards are fine. I get the idea, and even like it, but unnecessary changes are bad changes. Even the smallest items can have a big impact on the game, so if it's not broken, don't fix it.
gotta say i agree with wolf current wards are fine and most of the time i dont buy them either because too pricey and id rather get dmg/crit or armor. and i normally play safe enough i dont need them i normally only get them if i want a gank from a jungler or another lane. also as an akali player, **** that ****.


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SPEKTR1986

Senior Member

03-03-2012

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Originally Posted by zephyrguy View Post
gotta say i agree with wolf current wards are fine and most of the time i dont buy them either because too pricey and id rather get dmg/crit or armor. and i normally play safe enough i dont need them i normally only get them if i want a gank from a jungler or another lane. also as an akali player, **** that ****.
That is why I am pressing to TEST IT ON PBE without official release:

1) We have special server there
2) PBE now is starving from absence of testing!
Drop them idea about new testing item and we prob will get message :sorry! too many people logging in! Please wait! Estimated time: ** min


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SPEKTR1986

Senior Member

03-05-2012

only 500 views, hm


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