How to counter Heim

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Jenovaside

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10-17-2009

After playing 5 games with him, some quick tips.
1. Sivir. gg. You cant do anything. Her bouncy glaves kill his turrets fast as does her nuke.
2. MAKE SURE YOU LANE A RANGED HERO VS HIM. Seriously, he is very good vs mele, but any ranged can take out his turrets.
3. Focus the turrets first, don't let him build up a army of 6 of them. Early game just atk them over creeps, later on, groups of turrets are not as scary; they have low hp and fall fast.
4. If he turtles his turrets at the big turret, don't push, you are left laneing vs a meh hero with one meh nuke, so just farm. If he then moves turrets up, kill them and force him to build up further back.
5. dodge the nuke, it moves really slow. Its really not that hard 90% of the time. If you are meleing him, you cant really dodge it, but he counters mele champs, remember.


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Seym

Member

10-17-2009

Bumped for truth.

I don't think Heim is as OP as a lot of people think, it's more just that people don't know how to play against him yet. Whenever I play against him I try to tell my team to just solo him(if he is alone) since trying to push against him is largely just a waste of player resources while a single person(preferably ranged as the original poster said) can hold Heim off effectively.


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Sinistral

Senior Member

10-17-2009

There is one exception to that rule. I have found that Nunu is an AMAZING counter against Heimer. Consume deals with his turrets effortlessly. Rank 4-5 is enough to deal with his turrets, it's strong enough to destroy a level 3 turret. Also, it's amazing early game, get some mana regen items, 1 rank of Consume and Ice Blast to annoy the hell out of him.


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Morbis

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10-17-2009

good tips. heim is very good early game, but no where near as op as some people think


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Mercurius

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10-17-2009

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Originally Posted by Jenovaside View Post
After playing 5 games with him, some quick tips.
1. Sivir. gg. You cant do anything. Her bouncy glaves kill his turrets fast as does her nuke.
2. MAKE SURE YOU LANE A RANGED HERO VS HIM. Seriously, he is very good vs mele, but any ranged can take out his turrets.
3. Focus the turrets first, don't let him build up a army of 6 of them. Early game just atk them over creeps, later on, groups of turrets are not as scary; they have low hp and fall fast.
4. If he turtles his turrets at the big turret, don't push, you are left laneing vs a meh hero with one meh nuke, so just farm. If he then moves turrets up, kill them and force him to build up further back.
5. dodge the nuke, it moves really slow. Its really not that hard 90% of the time. If you are meleing him, you cant really dodge it, but he counters mele champs, remember.
1. Cool. 1 champ.
2. Most ranged champs can't outrange turrets. Ashe and Tristana(level 8+).
3. They have an incredibly tiny cooldown. Can't stop him from building them up.
4. Sure is balanced not being able to push a lane because of heimerdousche.
5. Kind of like anivia's ice ball? protip: get closer and nobody can dodge it, and it stuns so it's safe to get close anyway. Sure is balanced being able to hit towers!


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Footman

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10-17-2009

Let's see what Obvious Mundo has to say about the subject


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weizur

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10-17-2009

Heimer can also backdoor pretty well. His concussion grenade hits turrets fires from beyond their range and youc an do it behind trees. For most turrets you can stand in fog of war and kill them off.


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OrangeThrower

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10-17-2009

Sivir vs heim is fun. Veigars dark matter should effectively kill any grouped up turrets easily.


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Daesik

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10-17-2009

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Originally Posted by Mercurius View Post
1. Cool. 1 champ.
2. Most ranged champs can't outrange turrets. Ashe and Tristana(level 8+).
3. They have an incredibly tiny cooldown. Can't stop him from building them up.
4. Sure is balanced not being able to push a lane because of heimerdousche.
5. Kind of like anivia's ice ball? protip: get closer and nobody can dodge it, and it stuns so it's safe to get close anyway. Sure is balanced being able to hit towers!
1) Many champs hard counter Heim - Tristana, Ashe, Sivir, Veigar, Nunu, Master Yi and more. Any carry eats his turrets for breakfast.
2) Fight them one at a time, they don't do that much on their own and they only have 700 hp.
3) Upgrade doesn't however, and that's what makes them powerful.
4) Solved, look at other strategies.
5) Don't let him get close? Not so hard. Anivia can do the same thing. I think the hitting towers thing is kinda wierd though.


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Ragmanni

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10-17-2009

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Originally Posted by Mercurius View Post
1. Cool. 1 champ.
2. Most ranged champs can't outrange turrets. Ashe and Tristana(level 8+).
3. They have an incredibly tiny cooldown. Can't stop him from building them up.
4. Sure is balanced not being able to push a lane because of heimerdousche.
5. Kind of like anivia's ice ball? protip: get closer and nobody can dodge it, and it stuns so it's safe to get close anyway. Sure is balanced being able to hit towers!
Speaking of anivia, get tear of the goddess and you can oneshot 6 lvl 3 towers with your ult. Hurr, finding counters is hard. There's plenty of champs that rape him easy, Ashe, Nunu, Sivir, Anivia, Trist, Annie, etc etc.


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