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MUNDO amounts of AP on Vlad?

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Def Exe

Senior Member

07-25-2010

Hey guys, I've never grasped how non mana casters can get very much AP. The only one I can think of now is Kennen, but with Vlad out, there'll be two.

The reason that I don't know how to get MUNDO amounts of AP on non-mana casters is that they cannot use the passive from Archangel Staff, which is an item I almost always carry on mana casters that boost their AP significantly. So without Archangel and growing AP, how can (what items) can help non-mana casters get ~500 AP?

Seems to me, non mana casters are limited to around 500 ap, but non mana can go as high as 1k ap.

inb4 veigar.


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Burning Rose

Senior Member

07-25-2010

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Def Exe:

Seems to me, non mana casters are limited to around 500 ap, but mana can go as high as 1k ap.

Basically.

But people don't usually stack Archangel's anyways, so it's rare to see anyone go above 600 AP even in a long game.


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yoman632

Senior Member

07-25-2010

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Burning Rose:
Basically.

But people don't usually stack Archangel's anyways, so it's rare to see anyone go above 600 AP even in a long game.


It stacks?


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K18Uu

Senior Member

07-25-2010

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yoman632:
It stacks?


The mana bonus doesn't stack, the Passive AP+ does stack


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liquidstardust

Senior Member

07-25-2010

the passive 3% mana to ap is non unquine and it add about 450 mana per staff


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Def Exe

Senior Member

07-25-2010

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yoman632:
It stacks?


not the passive (not 1k mana each), but the 400 mana will add to the mana pool, giving you bonus AP. And there's the regular 60 AP too.


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Hanni

Senior Member

07-25-2010

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yoman632:
It stacks?


Does it blend?


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Def Exe

Senior Member

07-25-2010

so how do you gear a non mana character for big AP?


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Robok

Senior Member

07-25-2010

Isn't that justified by the fact that they can spam their spells without worrying about their mana pool being depleted? I mean look at Kennen, he can basically spam Q all day, whereas other normal casters have to conserve mana early on.


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SharpyShuffle

Member

07-25-2010

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Def Exe:
so how do you gear a non mana character for big AP?


You don't? What kind of games are you playing where you hit 500 ap on anyone?

Mejai's, rylai's, zhonya's. Ta-dah, there are good AP items for anyone that you can actually get in a realistic 25-45 minute game. Who cares if you can't stack archangels staves.


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