What Champs is Akali good against (Solo Top) ?

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Qeuscis

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02-01-2012

Recently got destroyed by a riven and also by a lee sin. Early on, they outburst, and later on, out tank. So at this point, is akali only a counterpick for solo top?


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RobbinnDaHood

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02-01-2012

Lee hard counters her, riven is very good vs her, renek destroys her, rumble does well vs her. Pretty much anyone with good AoE is good vs her. But if they lack that (eg irelia) shes a pretty good pick


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OmniOmega

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02-01-2012

Akali is an assassin, and by that logic she excels at quickly bursting down squishy targets. Champions that go top are typically tanky, with good sustain, which allows them to stay in lane and farm. Therefore, Akali is going to have a difficult time against most top champions.


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Burbinator

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02-01-2012

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Originally Posted by OmniOmega View Post
Akali is an assassin, and by that logic she excels at quickly bursting down squishy targets. Champions that go top are typically tanky, with good sustain, which allows them to stay in lane and farm. Therefore, Akali is going to have a difficult time against most top champions.
Actually, akali has a spammable q (energy = free casts) and has a very high base damage if you can activate it melee range. Thus you need someone who hits even harder in melee range or who has ranged + keeps her getting into ranged (renek punishes her hard and she cant kite his dash, rumble has ranged slow if she tries to activate pre-6, both have good aoe to hit her in shroud).

It's not as simple as "assassin beats squishy beats tanky dps beats assassin"; what exactly their kit is, is pretty important in determining who she beats. I would wager that akali is in fact pretty good against irelia for example, though I haven't seen the matchup since akali nerfs. Might give wukong trouble pre-6, etc.


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Ginga

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02-01-2012

Akali beats most ranged and squishy champions if played right...but most of the time they'll be in bot with a support or mid against your own AP mid.


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Cenerae

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02-02-2012

In the lane, Akali is usually very, very weak before level 6. If laning against someone who didn't start with boots (since Akali typically starts with boots) then she can potentially get some nice harrassing done to champs with non-deadly pokes or burst combos (ie, not Lee or Renekton or Ryze etc) by Q-ing and running up to proc it. Against the danger types you'll have to kick back and spam Q for lasthits.

Exception to this is if your opponent is being dense and doesn't understand he needs to back off when he gets marked. It's quite possible to chunk someone down pre-6 if you can mark them, then run up and hit-q-hit them. But most people aren't this foolish.

Once you hit 6 you take the kiddie gloves off and can ruin most laners, even the tanky ones. Q them, wait until Q comes off cooldown, then look to R-hit-q-hit-E. It will do HUGE amounts of damage to anyone who isn't stacking MR. Straight up Q-R-hit-E will work too if your opponents won't come near you after marking them. Use shroud when appropriate to protect you from their counter burst. You can still lose exchanges to the heavy burst champions, but you'll be able to actually fight them and maybe win now. If it's someone with an early wriggles, then you'll need to apply a lot of pressure to stop them from keeping healthy. You have the means to do so, so go aggressive whenever your shroud is ready to go.

edit - Avoid laning against someone like Lee or Rumble that can still deal heavy damage to her despite the shroud stealth. It won't be pretty.


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Kigrax

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02-02-2012

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Actually, akali has a spammable q (energy = free casts) and has a very high base damage if you can activate it melee range.
Her Q alone is mathematically not that much higher than other AP champs, it just has the addition of auto attack damage.


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Màssacre

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02-02-2012

she good if they are throwing ap up top imo, also id just rather mid with her


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Kikhan

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02-02-2012

Akali has been at best a counter pick for a very long time now. Those 2 champions do particularly well gainst her in general because of their kits. Lee Sin is generally one of the best counter picks for any stealthing champion since he was released.

If you are good at last hitting under a turret then you should still do relatively fine against anyone.

Remember her strengths are in assassinating and nuking the squishies in the back line. To assassinate means leaving the lane. Which means it needs to be covered or giving up the tower. She was never a good pick against a beefy team. While she can 1v1 most Champions a beefy team usually has a good amount of cc and control which can cripple her greatest strength (that of mobillity).


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ThaWiseWolf

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02-02-2012

Akali is good vs Nidalee, Sivir, Teemo, Tristana and Xerath. Those may not be solo tops but those are the champs she counters. To be honest, I find her to be a very situational pick, especially at top lane, and I wouldn't use her unless the enemy picks poorly. Top is seemingly dominated by Tanky DPS AD champs. And that's the kind of champ that Akali doesn't do so well against, one that gets tanky and puts out some damage.