AP's Are Mega-Weak In Dominion

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Glamrock69

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01-10-2012

Been playing a lot of Dominion, and AP's are extremely weak.

Around level 12, assassin-types have the following:

1. Extremely fast move speed.
2. Insane burst damage.
3. Short cooldowns.

AP's simply can't keep up with the insanely fast pace and burst damage.

The dominant strategy at this stage of the game seems to be play either an assassin or an assassin counter.

Caster Itemization

It's really bad.

ADs get a bloodrazor, they an AoE lightning bolt, and their starting item has lifesteal.

Casters need a starting item with spell vamp - NOT mp5.

Casters need larger health pools, cheap cooldown reduction, + movement speed, and more spell vamp from dominion-specific items.

The Role of Casters = Whiff

Casters are typically designed with AoE CC that's effective in large teamfights.

Dominion isn't about large teamfights as much as it is about small-scale 2v2/3v3 type stuff.

I believe this is why AP's are so ineffective in Dominion.

The only AP-based champs I bring are assassins like Ahri and Akali.

I avoid playing Anivia/Malzahar/Brand/Lux, etc.

Ryze would be the exception because he can stack armor/mana, and isn't dependent on slow-moving skillshots.


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WaterD103

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01-10-2012

100% agree, let's buff Cassiopeia, Ryze, leblanc, Kassadin, Karthus and malzahar.
Btw it's hilarious that you name Akali which is probably bottom 5 AP champ in the game.


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Glamrock69

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01-10-2012

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Originally Posted by WaterD103 View Post
100% agree, let's buff Cassiopeia, Ryze, leblanc, Kassadin, Karthus and malzahar.
Btw it's hilarious that you name Akali which is probably bottom 5 AP champ in the game.
Everyone you listed except Ryze is gank fodder in Dominion.

On Akali I can jump them and kill them within a few seconds with little retaliation.


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Sexploits

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01-10-2012

Ahri does very well in Dominion, as does Morgana in most cases.


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Zavy

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01-10-2012

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Everyone you listed except Ryze is gank fodder in Dominion.

On Akali I can jump them and kill them within a few seconds with little retaliation.
Uh, what? LeBlanc and Kass are *far* from fodder.


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RealWolf M

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01-10-2012

lol.

Gank fodder.

Water just listed a bunch of champions who are very powerful, some of whom are actually banned because of how powerful they are.

Maybe you should go learn something. The two items you listed for AD which are supposedly great, are both bad items. Kitae's is very average, does magic damage and so the magic resistance essentially makes it worthless on most AD carries. The ionic spark is worse


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FDru

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01-10-2012

There's only one "weak" AP champ and it's Vlad.


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WaterD103

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01-10-2012

Anivia/Malzahar/Brand/Lux

Anivia May be right? don't know. Malzahar is picked a lot. Brand is considered good. Lux is considered mediocre in Both SR and Dominion though.

There aren't many good anivia players in SR and it holds true for dominion. So we don't know how good anivia is at the moment.

Regardless wiht the POSSIBLE (unknown at this point) exception of anivia, the other 3 aren't considered worse in dominion than in SR (Malzahar may be considered even better in dominion in particular.)


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ChaoticHypnotic

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01-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Glamrock69 View Post
Been playing a lot of Dominion, and AP's are extremely weak.
This is curious, because your record shows ZERO Dominion wins.

Once you get some real experience and understand how to play Dominion, you'll realize that AP champions are not remotely weak.


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Taenaryn

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01-10-2012

Kitae's does seem to be a very good item for Kog'Maw though.