AD Taric as Top lane solo?!

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Tyrang

Senior Member

01-09-2012

I have seen posts on Taric as a top lane bruiser, which I found very interesting. So I have decided to do some research, which really suprises me. This is just for fun, don't go crasy on me -.-...

Taric's stats:

Taric base AD and AD growth is one of the HIGHEST (higher than champs like Riven, Jax, Alistar, Yi and such, the only one I see right now that is higher is Tryn, which makes him 2nd highest?), and his AS is actually also on the high end. Do the comparison yourself!

Source: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Taric

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Taric's mechanics

Looking at his mechanics, his passive will give him more mana as you hit things, which will let you heal up for sustain in top lane. Taric naturally has good armor from his W passive. His E do more dmg as you get closer. His ult is close range atk that deal magic dmg and buff his atk dmg and ability power (+70 on each, which is almost a IE and NLR!). So chain this together and all of a sudden it seems to make sense?!

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Taric's DPS build

So I decided to try a few different build on Leaguecraft to test out his stats. After some testing, I concluded that a hybrid build has the most sensible stats for a top lane brusier for both heal, burst and sustain dmg. I want 40% CDR on him (cuz his CD is sooo long, and I want Triforce to proc more), AD, AP and atma/warmog for HP and atk (this is important for zero range style play). I use triforce, gunblade and nashor for the hybride dmg. I tried sub in IE/BT/rageblade, but they just doesn't seem as good in overall numbers. You can do good dmg while still support team with heal and tank with this build.

Full Itemization: CDR boots, Triforce, Gunblades, Warmog, Atma, Nashor

Full build:
http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Taric/?items=28,108,61,44,16,117&runes=36,36,36,36,36,36 ,36,36,36,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,63,112,112,112,1 12,112,112,112,112,112,10,10,10&masteries=13404400 11300134100000000000000000000000000000000&level=18

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Taric's sequence (based on my itemization)

Take Ghost and another spell. Top lane usually take teleport (but I have an urge to pick surge for Taric which I never use -.-).

Close in and stun at close range for max dmg (320 flat magic dmg, no AP scaling). Auto atk once for Triforce proc (150% extra base dmg, which is 275 + 181.5 = 456.5 AD dmg). Ult deals 464.75 magic dmg, and add 70 to AD and AP for 10 secs. Auto atk once for Triforce proc again (345 + 181.5 = 526.5 AD dmg). Shatter for 340 + 70 = 410 magic dmg. Auto again for 526.5 dmg. Heal and Auto for 526.5 dmg.

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Sequence Total (no crit and no summoner spells, disregard armor, mr, and pens):

Time: around 2-3 secs to finish the full combo. The ult buff is still on, so you can still atk.

AD dmg: 1517.57
Magic dmg: 1303
Total dmg: 2820.75

Assume that you can continue to chase your enemy down with ghost, so the dmg doesn't end here. We know you are alive, since the enemy is stunned, and you can heal yourself.

I am not sure how armor, mr and pens factors in (I have an idea, but too lazy to figure out).

This stuff is just fun!


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tehNILE

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01-10-2012

Fabulous!


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XTreeX

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01-10-2012

omg i just saw a taric rape top........he mustave had move speed quints or something like that because he was IMPOSSIBLE to gank. everytime the enemy came for him he would just pop his ult and run away.

good guide btw +1


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Tyrang

Senior Member

01-10-2012

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Originally Posted by XTreeX View Post
omg i just saw a taric rape top........he mustave had move speed quints or something like that because he was IMPOSSIBLE to gank. everytime the enemy came for him he would just pop his ult and run away.

good guide btw +1
Thanks!

Taric's ult doesn't grant speed tho. Maybe he ghosted?


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Cenerae

Senior Member

01-10-2012

Taric does perform the bruiser job acceptably, but he's hardly anything special at it. He can debuff the enemy's armor and buff his own AD, plus his stun. These are the only reasons why it even works at all. But there are many better options to use as bruisers.

Still, it's somewhat viable if you feel like doing something quirky.


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Dweia

Senior Member

01-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Tyrang View Post
Thanks!

Taric's ult doesn't grant speed tho. Maybe he ghosted?
With his new ulti there's not much reason to pop it and run. Sounds like a shurelya's reverie build pre-remake though. Back when you could use shurelya's movespeed buff, then radiance to heal any damage they do.


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Bork9128

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01-10-2012

i feel he needs some mr because with that any ap could easily knock him down


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Felix67

Member

01-10-2012

Nice info there.Might as well work,gonna try it.

Just a small observation.At the combo part of your post you are counting Trinity procs for all your auto attacks (3 in total),then at the end you mention that the combo is about 2-3 seconds long.You dont account the cooldown on trinity procs in there,which essentially make the whole combo about 5+ seconds.You have to either change the combo to add 1-2 trinity procs or change the time that takes to perform your combo


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myphycowitz

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01-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Bork9128 View Post
i feel he needs some mr because with that any ap could easily knock him down
Ya i just tried this build. Didnt take **** for damage from ad champs but their ap ripped me apart. It was fun though, so much dmg.


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Bork9128

Senior Member

01-11-2012

iv just been messing around with the build that he had

i got something like this
http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Taric/?items=28,108,61,44,16,70&runes=38,38,38,38,38,38, 38,38,38,110,110,110,110,110,110,110,110,110,98,98 ,98,98,98,98,98,98,98,10,10,10&masteries=004004000 1000000003324021010130010000000000000000&level=18

and to me this seems to give almost the same damage but being much more ap survivability and gives nearly 40 cdr without cdr boots so you can get merc treads

also thinking of trying gold/sec seals to help with the high cost of this build


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