Jax vs Garen?

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Luas

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12-28-2011

I hear alot of people complain that Jax is op. Yet in my last match we had an AD garen top vs jax and garen was 7 and 2.

Do you think Garen is a good counter to Jax?
Are there any other counters?


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Cenerae

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12-28-2011

Garen is a good counter to a lot of solo top champs, especially ones who can't simply burst and back off easily (like Jax).

Renekton and Riven should also be able to wipe the floor with Jax. Champs with naturally high sustain should also do well, but probably wouldn't be hard counters.

In the AP crowd, Kennen, Rumble and Ryze should also stomp all over him.


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Kanajos

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12-28-2011

I personally think that a good twitch can destroy Jax. Jax generally won't get to close to twitch if the twitch hasn't used his ult yet. Another good counter would be Vayne; her long range should be able to harass Jax for most fo the game. She isn't a very good top laner in my experience though.

The only real way to be able to counter the Jax will be to face him multiple times yourself, then see who you did well with against him, and to retry people to see if there is someone you are better with.


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Cenerae

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12-28-2011

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Originally Posted by Kanajos View Post
I personally think that a good twitch can destroy Jax. Jax generally won't get to close to twitch if the twitch hasn't used his ult yet. Another good counter would be Vayne; her long range should be able to harass Jax for most fo the game. She isn't a very good top laner in my experience though.

The only real way to be able to counter the Jax will be to face him multiple times yourself, then see who you did well with against him, and to retry people to see if there is someone you are better with.
Twitch and Vayne get wrecked by Jax because they're too fragile to take many leap strike + empower combos, and can't do much to get him off them. Plus their purely autoattack natures ensure he'll get stun procs on them easily. There's a reason why you don't ever see either champ solo'd very much :P


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Azellos

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12-28-2011

One of the reasons garen works well is he builds tanky damage, but still does large amounts of damage while only auto attacking for a silence. Dodge is a non-issue, compared to other ADs.


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Jumpshot Jay

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12-28-2011

Garen will win early and mid.


Jax will win late game.


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Wisewind

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12-28-2011

haven't seen much of jax in a long time solo top, especially since no one knows what his E will be changed into and the removal of dodge


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breadbocks

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12-28-2011

Garen is a great counter for Jax in lane because of his ability to make Jax pay every time he leapstrikes.


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brick wall man

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12-28-2011

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Garen will win early and mid.


Jax will win late game.
the only problem with this is that garen feeds off of stupid. as long as jax stays away from bushes and avoids the silence garen wont get kills and the floor will in turn be mopped by jax as normal


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ForeverLaxx

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12-28-2011

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the only problem with this is that garen feeds off of stupid. as long as jax stays away from bushes and avoids the silence garen wont get kills and the floor will in turn be mopped by jax as normal
Garen can't really utilize a lot of that feed effectively because of his abilities and their lack of real scaling. If he builds damage with that feed, he gets blown up too easily. If he builds too much tank, then he's ignorable. Garen has always had a weak late-game without his ultimate, and if the game goes on long enough Jax will always beat out Garen in the long-game. The strength of Garen comes from his ability to completely shut out his lane opponent, forcing them to be behind the entire game, making them take longer to catch up, and hopefully getting a surrender out of the enemy.

With that out of the way, Garen is practically a hard-counter to Jax in the lane. The majority of your damage comes from abilities, which Jax can't dodge. Garen's passive is impossible for Jax to deal with without putting himself at extreme risk thanks to Garen's high damage and low cooldown abilities that Jax has no answer to unless he gets a stun proc from a minion beforehand. And even if he does, if Jax doesn't dodge the Decisive Strike, he won't get to even use that Stun to save himself from Judgment.

Garen is a good choice to tackle many solo-top champions in the current meta. Jax just happens to be one of those that has no real answer to fight back.


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