Lichbane Veigar

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D4RK3W0LF

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01-03-2012

It's pretty god tier as a 6th item, if the game goes that far, and you got crazy cs.
The movement speed is something most overlook though. And the magic resist.
Pretty much a late game luxury just as someone else said idk...it's situational.


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P1ZD0NH4KM3

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01-01-2014

actually i really do like getting lich bane on him, especially cuz my first main item is archangels meaning the mana increases my ap, so it gives like 100 ap and adds an extra 120 (50 + like 70 physical damage)+ 85%ap (mastery) + to your burst you don tneed to weave autos, just one auto attack its like an extra q, about the same animation better scaling less base damage which is why i like to get it after my rabadons and zhonya/DFG depending on which one i need and void staff (depends on how much mr they building if not then i build it now but if they build mr i get this before my rabadons)i find lich to actually be extremely effective, also allow more stable damage to go with your q in teamfight after your burst

it grants like 135 ap with archangels passive, mastery ap stacked with rabadons while giving mana that cant hurt and move speed that cant hurt and the passive allows for an extra 85% ap scaling during burst with increased stable damage i dont know why people seem to hate it so much


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P1ZD0NH4KM3

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01-01-2014

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It's pretty god tier as a 6th item, if the game goes that far, and you got crazy cs.
The movement speed is something most overlook though. And the magic resist.
Pretty much a late game luxury just as someone else said idk...it's situational.
magic resist?


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Hippo77

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01-01-2014

This thread is from 2011 =__=

and who gets archangel's staff on veigar when ROA builds faster?


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P1ZD0NH4KM3

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This thread is from 2011 =__=

and who gets archangel's staff on veigar when ROA builds faster?
gives more ap more mana more mana regen, and has a shield? i dont know.......... and i didnt know it was from 2011 but i was wondering the same thing as this poster and i googled it and it brought me here and anyways anyoen can tell me why its actually bad?

i dont forum much, would it have been better if i just posted a new and seperate thread?


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Hippo77

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01-01-2014

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gives more ap more mana more mana regen, and has a shield? i dont know.......... and i didnt know it was from 2011 but i was wondering the same thing as this poster and i googled it and it brought me here and anyways anyoen can tell me why its actually bad?

i dont forum much, would it have been better if i just posted a new and seperate thread?
Takes a long time to build into Seraph's Embrace. That's why I don't even like it on Karthus, just the time needed to finish it off isn't worth it. And Veigar already has a Chalice-like passive. Although the shield could help, I'd still rather spend the gold on Deathcap. I feel like Veigar can do fine with 1 Doran's or even Chalice.

The reason some people don't like Lich Bane is because Veigar can't stay too long in closed ranges, he's already low range + super squishy + unmobile. He can't make use of Lich Bane as well as others. Though, in some games, with CDR + Lich Bane, constant Q + Lich Bane procs could occur and do well.


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cpandarun

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01-01-2014

Dont buy Arch Angel's on Veiger it simply delays him from doing damage. It's not necessary at all since being Veiger you should be receiving the majority of blues from your jungle. Instead work towards an early DFG with a Dorans or 2 inbetween. It might seem like a waste but I start Veiger with 5 health and man pots and continue to buy about 2-3 mana pots every back simply because he can farm relatively safely in most lanes from a distance with mana. And all Veiger needs is farm a DFG and magic pen.

As for LichBane well it's stated above why you shouldn't get it because it's a very niche scenario where it would actually work. Same with Rylais on Veiger because 90% of the games you play with him you're going to be looking to one shot somebody not have sustained dps.

Also yes don't necro threads feel free to make a new one.


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The Lord Mayor

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01-01-2014

How in the holy fk did you guys find this thread?


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P1ZD0NH4KM3

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Dont buy Arch Angel's on Veiger it simply delays him from doing damage. It's not necessary at all since being Veiger you should be receiving the majority of blues from your jungle. Instead work towards an early DFG with a Dorans or 2 inbetween. It might seem like a waste but I start Veiger with 5 health and man pots and continue to buy about 2-3 mana pots every back simply he can farm relatively safely in most lanes from a distance with mana. And all Veiger needs is farm a DFG and magic pen.because

As for LichBane well it's stated above why you shouldn't get it because it's a very niche scenario where it would actually work. Same with Rylais on Veiger because 90% of the games you play with him you're going to be looking to one shot somebody not have sustained dps.

Also yes don't necro threads feel free to make a new one.
it adds to his burst, and besides, i was generally thinking of his teamfight contribution after bursting down the enemy carry, if it still adds to what you specialize in largely, with an 85% ap scaling and since he does have low range on his abilities anyway i think his q and aa have virtually the same range, not that i play veigar much if he specializes in burst then why is this bad on him? and besides since he is a late game specialist anyway with his q then you arent the best in early game anyway so even if it does take 15 minuites to stack archangels, it will be done by your time to shine?! and i do get my dorans, i only get dfg sometimes, since despite him being a burst champion if they are squishy enough to burst, i just havent needed dfg to do it but i think 85% of your ap shouldnt be too far from 20% of your other damage not sure but it doubles your sustained damage and significantly increases your burst? and i like to get archangels on him because it does give me mana regen, obviously but even bigger is the max mana it gives me to allow me to continue after bursting someone down

if you get chalice on him, does the two passives turn into increasing mana regen by 2% for every % of missing mana or do they stack multiplicatively...?


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