Riot make a god **** remake button.

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RedRoostur

Junior Member

12-01-2011

Was playing ranked, and in que before the match started while picking heroes. This ashe says "All shacos suck, and fizz is a garbage champ". False on both accounts. We get in game, Shaco gets first blood, fizz dies, we get ganked bot(i'm janna) we kill their kog, and then both die. He rage quits. It is now minute 4. Now we lose Riot. And you still have no remake button for this, no incentive not to be like this kid. Make a god **** remake button, or give me a loss forgiven.


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Parcheeseey

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12-01-2011

yeah, got to say, you can usually tell if someone is going to feed BAD based on what they say in que. Though, instead of a remake button, maybe a "vote for remake" where at least 4 people in the que have to press it in order for it to work. Will reduce raging.


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Attle

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12-01-2011

not 4 cause what if 2 ppl r trolling.
3 is enough and its unlikely ud get more than 2 trolls while still having the majority in the proper players' favor


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RudeZombie

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12-01-2011

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Originally Posted by Attle View Post
not 4 cause what if 2 ppl r trolling.
3 is enough and its unlikely ud get more than 2 trolls while still having the majority in the proper players' favor

Great idea! Majority of the proper players should include the other team as well. I've played many a game in other arena games where the other team has tried to remake a game after some very poor overly aggressive early game decisions.


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Amatzikahni

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12-01-2011

If two people are trolling, then those two will lose Elo and the other five will gain Elo, a net positive change in seven of the ten people. However, if just one person is bad, that's debatable since 6/10 isn't nearly as convincing and it may be misconstrued. The initial timer would have to be increased (before the second team's first ban is completed) so as to get the team's opinion before bans start flying and the game begins (where it begins is actually the first ban but forcing teams to converse for ~30 sec before any bans are allowed might be too big of a change to the current game flow).

If you're talking about remaking a game after it has started, then I 100% disagree. Level one teamfights can often decide games, as can jungle invasions, and those happen before the 1:30 marker. Also, it really, REALLY easily allows people to throw matches as people can keep requeueing until they have the proper teams, at least in high level play where there are few people in the same bracket at any given time.


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Attle

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12-01-2011

actually it could b exploited massively like what amatz said (remaking just cause their team counters yours perfectly) maybe it shouldn't b done


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Amatzikahni

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12-02-2011

People who agree with OP: +1
People who provide logical counterarguments, none of which have been refuted yet: -1

Glad to see forums working as intended.


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Flagonslayer

Senior Member

12-02-2011

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Originally Posted by RedRoostur View Post
Was playing ranked, and in que before the match started while picking heroes. This ashe says "All shacos suck, and fizz is a garbage champ". False on both accounts. We get in game, Shaco gets first blood, fizz dies, we get ganked bot(i'm janna) we kill their kog, and then both die. He rage quits. It is now minute 4. Now we lose Riot. And you still have no remake button for this, no incentive not to be like this kid. Make a god **** remake button, or give me a loss forgiven.
Then you queue up with a buddy who does a false rage quit because the first five minutes of the game didn't go your way. He's on a smurf account and you get a free loss forgiven and queue up to maybe stomp an easier team.

Exploitable.


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Titanium Apple

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12-03-2011

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Originally Posted by Amatzikahni View Post
If two people are trolling, then those two will lose Elo and the other five will gain Elo, a net positive change in seven of the ten people. However, if just one person is bad, that's debatable since 6/10 isn't nearly as convincing and it may be misconstrued. The initial timer would have to be increased (before the second team's first ban is completed) so as to get the team's opinion before bans start flying and the game begins (where it begins is actually the first ban but forcing teams to converse for ~30 sec before any bans are allowed might be too big of a change to the current game flow).

If you're talking about remaking a game after it has started, then I 100% disagree. Level one teamfights can often decide games, as can jungle invasions, and those happen before the 1:30 marker. Also, it really, REALLY easily allows people to throw matches as people can keep requeueing until they have the proper teams, at least in high level play where there are few people in the same bracket at any given time.
70% accurate compared to StarCraft's 100% accuracy rate. A remake button is exploitable.

The fix: Riot needs to stop vomiting out champions and skins and actually start fixing their elo system and their game in general. You can't simply take a 1v1 elo system and apply it to a 5v5 game. It doesn't work. The only real solution is for Riot to actually do some work and create a new elo calculating algorithm. Hiring a balance team of non-******* also helps.