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Boycott the Jungle

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darkno1

Member

11-29-2011

morello still doesnt get the point of 90% community wanting the jungle back. Who the hell cares about trying it and most of us already have but does it matter? We know what we want back. face facts.


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ST Blademage

Senior Member

11-29-2011

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bubblesaurus:
Really, because SV has failed ganks all night and he was the highest level on his team a few games other games he was avg(never lowest).

Funny how that works eh.


funny how all the words that come out of his mouth are that the jungle sucks.. and each bit of sarcasm about how its "a good change by riot" is spite towards and under-tested an uneeded change. so stop posting rly.. every time you do it makes you seem more idiotic than before


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TriforceOfChozo

Recruiter

11-29-2011

I'm not playing jungle until these changes are either reverted or drastically fixed.


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Growl Mireles

Senior Member

11-29-2011

signed, agree with you 100% just seems like its a farm fest now


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Duffie

Senior Member

11-29-2011

Taking out counter jungling = dumbing down the game

Jungle Farmers = only viable jungle

RIP Jungle


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EzraTwitch

Senior Member

11-29-2011

ditto

also

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I'm not playing jungle until these changes are either reverted or drastically fixed.


I am not playing PERIOD until these changes are either reverted or drastically fixed.


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Starcastic

Senior Member

11-29-2011

What people don't realize is that this patch was implemented as part of Riot's final solution of the jungler question.


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Phreak

Senior Recruiter

11-29-2011

Crumbzz, so this is a jungle where if you dedicate yourself to farming, you can keep up with everyone else's farm, and if you choose to give up farming in order to gank, you get behind slightly in farm. This was our goal with the jungle. On that front, I feel like this is a success. Am I correct in this assessment?

Now, your points about overpowered junglers, specifically AoE junglers, I can see a lot of truth in that. If you want to be a dedicated jungler, AoE might be the way to go right now and this might require re-balancing.

Why are you so tied up in the concept of "full clear -> gank"? We specifically stated that it was somewhat of a goal to get rid of that concept. The jungle does not come in "waves." The jungle is living, breathing, and ever-active. A "full clear" is not really a "full clear" if half of it is already back up, isn't it?

And as for your specific example of level2 -> gank before the side lane hits level 2, this is still completely doable. Kill the Lizard instead of the double golems. Sure it spawns 15 seconds later and that will slow you down slightly, but it also gives you the Lizard buff for an even stronger gank. As someone who's done both of these ganks before, I prefer the latter


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Smoseph

Recruiter

11-29-2011

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Phreak:
Crumbzz, so this is a jungle where if you dedicate yourself to farming, you can keep up with everyone else's farm, and if you choose to give up farming in order to gank, you get behind slightly in farm. This was our goal with the jungle. On that front, I feel like this is a success. Am I correct in this assessment?

Now, your points about overpowered junglers, specifically AoE junglers, I can see a lot of truth in that. If you want to be a dedicated jungler, AoE might be the way to go right now and this might require re-balancing.

Why are you so tied up in the concept of "full clear -> gank"? We specifically stated that it was somewhat of a goal to get rid of that concept. The jungle does not come in "waves." The jungle is living, breathing, and ever-active. A "full clear" is not really a "full clear" if half of it is already back up, isn't it?

And as for your specific example of level2 -> gank before the side lane hits level 2, this is still completely doable. Kill the Lizard instead of the double golems. Sure it spawns 15 seconds later and that will slow you down slightly, but it also gives you the Lizard buff for an even stronger gank. As someone who's done both of these ganks before, I prefer the latter


Sure maybe it met your goals, but we hate what your goals wanted to achieve. I thought you guys wanted to increase aggression. What you're saying is that you want us to idle farm in the jungle right now or miss out on farm, which is definitely not aggressive


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ekimkcorb

Junior Member

11-29-2011

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Smoseph:
Sure maybe it met your goals, but we hate what your goals wanted to achieve. I thought you guys wanted to increase aggression. What you're saying is that you want us to idle farm in the jungle right now or miss out on farm, which is definitely not aggressive


Cannot upvote this enough.