Inside Design: Dodge

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Struddle

Senior Member

11-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Lord Serphroth View Post
give them a chance dude .. they wud have made some good plans for him .. they wont let a cool champion like jax simply be a waste of ip/rp .. let RIOT reveal the solution to the dodge problem .. then we can blame/praise RIOT for the changes
Have you ever seen evelyn or twitch? like seriously?


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FATE Vanguard

Member

11-24-2011

By using this logic, is true damage is a problematic stat as well?


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Réquien

Junior Member

11-24-2011

Very fail


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Twilight Monkey

Senior Member

11-24-2011

One more thing: Fun and Anti-fun are in no way objective.


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draketalon

Junior Member

11-24-2011

SO wait wait. What the heck is going to happen to Jax. Most of his combat Style revolved around being able to leap strike, stun, and proceed to pummel the other champion. You have essentially eliminated that and his playstyle. Before this change, it was hard for most any champion to escape, and that stat made him one of, if not the best soloing champs


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Disillusion

Senior Member

11-24-2011

It took you two full years to come to this realization? Why?

Why now? Why not then?


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draketalon

Junior Member

11-24-2011

Respect the Champ! Respect to JAX!!!! Who, by the way, as the champ of League of legends. Has never received a Legendary Skin


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TheWarpStorm

Junior Member

11-24-2011

You mentioned how only Pantheon has the block, and how that makes him unique, does that mean the like 3 (if I remember correctly) champions that have internal dodge mechanisms, will they keep them?....


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Gwynbleidd43254

Senior Member

11-24-2011

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Originally Posted by BrotherCaine View Post
To those saying crit is just as random and powerful as dodge: No, No it isn't.

Try and think.

100% Crit vs 100% dodge. Do you see now?
But therein lies the issue, no one could reach 100% dodge due to item limitations whereas it is quite simple to get to 100% Crit. So its closer to 5-10% dodge vs 100% crit, or if you would prefer assuming all seals and quints are dodge and you bought 6 ninja tabi then about 56% dodge (give or take) vs 100% Crit. Now which is more powerful?


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have some beer

Junior Member

11-24-2011

Fun or un-fun is not the real issue I would think. Or the main one at least. The truth is Riot, as any company, has only one agenda, and is aimed at only one thing, which is making money. Engrossing profit, making those shareholders richer.
How do they do that? Sure they can make the game more fun, but as they don't charge for the game and already have a huge player base, that's not the main point.
The main point is how do they make their money.
Obviously, new content. The problem with adding new content constantly is that you have to constantly rebalance everything in order to not affect said game balance.
If Riot were any good at game design/balance (which is not the issue discussed here), then when they create new champions, and fix balances issues, they must do this while keeping in mind all the game mechanics, because those things have to reach a certain equilibrium within the playing experience. And with the amount of game mechanics/stats that are in, dodge, crit, fury, AP, Armor, ArP, MrP, and with the ever expending champions pool,the best way to simplify things, and allow a faster creation/balance of new content, and therefore make more money, is to remove those marginalized mechanisms. In this case dodge, because it mostly affects only 3 champions.
If you wanted to remove AP from the game, you would need to rebalance everything. If you removed flash from the game, you would need to rework many champions. They can only build those flash like skills into almost all their new champions only because other champions can get flash as a summoner spell to balance things.