Jax OP in Dominion?

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Insomnium

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11-22-2011

He seems to get banned almost all the time in draft pick. He's sort of a go-to counter to brawlers with his high dodge and quickly scaling auto attack dmg. He's the anti-meta for Dominion.
Will the mastery changes nerf him enough? No nimbleness or dodge bonus...
Here is a replay of Jax in Dominion if you want some food for thought or haven't seen how he plays on this map.
http://www.lolreport.com/2011/11/dominion-jax-gameplay-colbylolvideos/


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Xavderion

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11-22-2011

Yes he is. You could counter him with 2 AP burst champs but they are not that viable on Dominion so yeah rather ban Jax.


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Phourc

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11-22-2011

He counters anyone dumb enough to stand around autoattacking him, which is plenty of people in solo queue - Sadly I'd say fully worth the ban ):


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Insomnium

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11-22-2011

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He counters anyone dumb enough to stand around autoattacking him, which is plenty of people in solo queue - Sadly I'd say fully worth the ban ):
Dominion requires... not more "standing" but less area to kite to since your priority is to guard areas, and towers do not kill as fast. So "allowing" Jax to auto you seems to be much less avoidable in this game mode.


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Insomnium

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11-24-2011

Any thoughts?


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brainlizard

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11-24-2011

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Dominion requires... not more "standing" but less area to kite to since your priority is to guard areas, and towers do not kill as fast. So "allowing" Jax to auto you seems to be much less avoidable in this game mode.
Dominion is very kite-friendly.


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Shaxtenn

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11-24-2011

He has a low-cooldown AOE stun, high hybrid damage, a LOT of free health, free magic resist vs mages, free dodge vs phys, and a great engage/disengage move.

He's a really powerful champion, with a handful of little things - like dodge, which brutally punishes you for right-clicking him - that push him up over into OP territory.

You can deal with him, sure. That doesn't mean he's not strong. Being OP isn't the same as being literally unkillable.


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Jadarok

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11-24-2011

Don't worry...the removal of Dodge and upcoming rework of Jax will finally put an end these annoying threads.


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Insomnium

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11-24-2011

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Don't worry...the removal of Dodge and upcoming rework of Jax will finally put an end these annoying threads.
They already took it out of the masteries =O Out of the whole game though? Not sure what I think about it.


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FDru

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11-24-2011

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They already took it out of the masteries =O Out of the whole game though? Not sure what I think about it.
A whole 2% which hardly matters. Do you know how much dodge Jax gets just from Tabi and counter attack? An absurd amount. Throw in runes and he's dodging every 3rd attack. He can dodge turrets in Dom so he can dive anybody and kill them easily, and minions are everywhere as well. It's pretty much impossible to stop him from getting dodges.

Gunblade nerf took him down a notch but only early game; he's still ridiculous once he gets his core items. Bottom line is that he will win almost any fight where he can get counter attack procs, and even against multiple champs he will get at least one kill before dying.