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Should Baron and Dragon have their spawn locations generated each game?

Yes 536 31.53%
No 413 24.29%
I like turtles (yes) 501 29.47%
I like turtles (no) 250 14.71%
Voters 1700 .

@Riot: Dragon and Baron

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Toraidhe

Recruiter

11-17-2011

they should be swapped to give purple easier access to baron since they already have a disadvantage because of the screen.


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Bekkal

Senior Member

11-17-2011

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Fufufufufu:
here's the thing, that's the point of swapping the spawns. if what you're saying is happening is an example of a lack of lane control and bad play. their 2v1 automatically dominates your solo but your 2v1 get zoned? if you're going to make a point like this, it has to be symmetrical


I'm saying that this would happen if the spawns are random:


support wards dragon spawn locations then business as usual

dragon spawns and ranged ad/support go to dragon lane, solo top moves to now-empty lane.

If your opponent is dumb enough to keep 2 champs in the non-dragon lane, congrats, you just secured every dragon spawn all game. They will NOT zone your bruiser solo. It just isn't going to happen. Meanwhile, your duo can pressure their solo to turret, freeing dragon up completely for your team.

Essentially all it does is set back support warding by two wards.


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Politburo

Senior Member

11-17-2011

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Bekkal:
I'm saying that this would happen if the spawns are random:


support wards dragon spawn locations then business as usual

dragon spawns and ranged ad/support go to dragon lane, solo top moves to now-empty lane.

If your opponent is dumb enough to keep 2 champs in the non-dragon lane, congrats, you just secured every dragon spawn all game. They will NOT zone your bruiser solo. It just isn't going to happen. Meanwhile, your duo can pressure their solo to turret, freeing dragon up completely for your team.

Essentially all it does is set back support warding by two wards.


then everybody swaps. what's the issue?


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mikeylikesit17

Senior Member

11-17-2011

the No votes are the same people that hate the new masteries just because they are different.

CHANGE SCARY????


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Spiderbubble

Senior Member

11-17-2011

Hell no! Randomness is stupid in something that should involve skill. Random minion placing in TT is stupid enough, and now you want to put it in SR too? HELL NAW!


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Grasps

Senior Member

11-17-2011

Why would that change anything? Both should be warded anyway.


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King Wappa

Senior Member

11-17-2011

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this is exactly it. the thing is, to shuffle the initial lane assignments and all the implications of that.



BUT, dragon doesnt spawn immediately, neither does baron.

how are the lanes supposed to know where to go if its random...


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Venekor

Senior Member

11-17-2011

bump


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Altonia

Senior Member

11-17-2011

Wards. You are now forced...


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VinTheRockDiesel

Senior Member

11-17-2011

You people playing with minimap disabled? If not, wards don't make a difference. Dragons spawns, bam you see where it is.

But this idea isn't good. What's the point of trying to mix up the lanes this way? One team gets screwed because they hoped dragon would be top, sent their duo there, and got their solo killed? Doesn't matter where dragon spawns, they're at a disadvantage. It just... doesn't make sense. Better to know you're blue and adapt your plans to deal with that than to risk losing two lanes for something that might not even happen.