sion - lets be honest

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SandvichTF2

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11-11-2011

It's extremely easy to pull it off, ganking as sion is a breeze(He also snowballs pretty well, due to the fact more ap gives more defense and farming gives more hp). His stun is like a 5 second cooldown late game and it's honestly ridiculous how often he can use it.


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ZeaIot

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11-11-2011

xerath's and kennens stuns have to be worked for to achieve whereas sion is a click-stun and shield pop with a 3-5 second cycle depending on cdr. also it's easier to farm on sion than xerath or kennen


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Hah

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11-11-2011

His stun isn't a skillshot and he's quite tanky and if you build him AP, you get a little of everything - tank, AP, and AD. He is tanky because of his strong shield and permanent HP boosts, AP with good ratios, and AD with his long ultimate on a low cooldown and his E which raises his AD.

Though I don't think he is OP, I think he is on the stronger end of champions. Don't forget that while the ratios are low, the utility isn't. He has a great CC stun, a great shield that ends up doing AOE damage, and an ultimate that heals his team, all of which are on relatively low cooldowns.


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Vlyigi

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11-11-2011

1. Easier to land stun. You can dodge Xerath's stun, you can dodge Kennen's.
2. Farms mid with 1 shield, ganks bot. This applies a huge pressure to buy a ton of wards (and even wards don't stop him, what if you just stay outside ward range and run in when your bot lane engages?).
3. Even with lower burst "potential" Sion gets free hp from his E, allowing him to rush deathcap instead of the traditional RoA build.


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Bekkal

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11-11-2011

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Originally Posted by snailsloy View Post
it's easier to farm on sion than xerath or kennen
See now i know you're just pulling things out of your butt.

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Originally Posted by Acricaloris View Post
1. Easier to land stun. You can dodge Xerath's stun, you can dodge Kennen's.
2. Farms mid with 1 shield, ganks bot. This applies a huge pressure to buy a ton of wards (and even wards don't stop him, what if you just stay outside ward range and run in when your bot lane engages?).
3. Even with lower burst "potential" Sion gets free hp from his E, allowing him to rush deathcap instead of the traditional RoA build.
1: You can't dodge kennen's stun, because he's stunning your entire team with his aoes, not his shuriken, because it isn't 4 minutes into the lane phase.
2: If you get ganked by a sion you didn't ward your lane at all. At all. He has no gap closer to speak of, no movement buff, nothing. He plods his chubby butt to your lane, sits in bush, and waits for you to facecheck.
3: Except he needs to be in melee range to "burst", his E doesn't give him that much HP to the point that he doesn't need to build survivability, and he only has 2 skills that even make marginal use of his deathcap.

Try harder.


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11-11-2011

Kennen and Xerath's "burst" for one is not burst, and two, is not guaranteed. Sion stun + shield explode is guaranteed damage. Kennen and Xerath both use skillshots and their stuns require landing these.

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See now i know you're just pulling things out of your butt.
LOL what? Have you ever even played Sion? Clear minion wave with one shield, and you say he's not easier than Xerath and Kennen to farm with..


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magicblitz

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11-11-2011

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Originally Posted by Kayn02 View Post
He ganks harder than any jungler. Somethings wrong with that.
pretty sure nobody ganks harder then skarner/nocturne/fiddle


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eBlossom

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11-11-2011

Derp push W on derp keyboard
Derp right click minions
Derp back after they derp from derp shield
Derp and repeat.
Then derp to other lane and derp shield.
Derp stun someone then derp shield.
Derp ignite.
Derp and repeat.


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magicblitz

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11-11-2011

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Originally Posted by ViceOfFire View Post
Kennen and Xerath's "burst" for one is not burst, and two, is not guaranteed. Sion stun + shield explode is guaranteed damage. Kennen and Xerath both use skillshots and their stuns require landing these.


LOL what? Have you ever even played Sion? Clear minion wave with one shield, and you say he's not easier than Xerath and Kennen to farm with..
can they do anything while being hit? no, they're stunned. and kennen deals all of his damage in around one second, xerath in about 1.5 seconds


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Eytukan

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11-11-2011

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Originally Posted by Kayn02 View Post
He ganks harder than any jungler. Somethings wrong with that.
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