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How would you counter this team?

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Azurlite

Recruiter

11-07-2011

Well, me and my friends were playing a 4 pre-made, we had a rammus, lee sin, vayne, malzahar, and fiddlesticks. Anyways, I was wondering how it's possible for our team composition to counter Amumu, Galio, Malphite, Alistar, and Kog. When we tried to fight them, we got CC'ed for the duration of the team fight and pretty much got aced twice. We even tried fighting them under the 2 nexus towers. (Note that the game score for both teams was 27/30) yet we still got wiped out in a second from ult spam.

So, how would you counter something like this?

P.S. Don't say QSS because you'll just get CC'ed by the next ult afterwards.


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Zelxin

Junior Member

11-07-2011

Split push


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Kuxir

Senior Member

11-07-2011

sometimes you just get outpicked, this game isnt balanced on every single possible combination and matchup of characters....


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Skilltestingman

Senior Member

11-07-2011

go normal mode and pick that team


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Adverk

Recruiter

11-07-2011

kill kog and they go no damage


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KingDinger

Senior Member

11-08-2011

thats a common team comp...its known as protect the kog.

since a well fed kog can 1 vs 5 any team aslong as he has someone to take all the force of the 5.

at 2.5AS with madreds kog doesnt even need to ult. also if he gets AS/AP items and a rabbadons and still keeps the 2.5AS he can kill even baron in no time.

this has only started since kog got a few buffs. now i think he got nerfed so its a bit less common.
easiest way to counter it is get an assassin to **** on kog all through laning. so he cant get farmed up at all.
late game if he is well fed and farmed, ignore 5 vs 5 fights. jump in kill kog and BOLT. push down towers ASAP. vayne should be able to take down atleast one of the tanks and rammus should be able to 1 vs 1 galio quite easily. lee sin should be able to take kog out every time. malz can freeze someone who is in bad positioning and fiddle should be able to gank kog nicely if he is jungle fiddle.


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Sir Jaune Arc Jr

Senior Member

11-08-2011

well first off u pick too many squishies
2nd malzahar and fiddle in the same team is a risk cause of the tanky meta.
3rd you prob vs'd a full premade so that explains the CC stack team
but like the way to counter that team is to split push, assassinate 1 overextended champ, or fight at baron.


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Skunkfoot

Senior Member

11-08-2011

You'd have to try to spread out. If you group together, you'll get wrecked by their ults. Spread out and you'll make their ults less effective.

That being said, your own team comp could've been a lot better. They really don't synergize well with each other at all, unlike the enemy team's picks.


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Delicious NomCat

Member

11-08-2011

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Skunkfoot:
You'd have to try to spread out. If you group together, you'll get wrecked by their ults. Spread out and you'll make their ults less effective.

That being said, your own team comp could've been a lot better. They really don't synergize well with each other at all, unlike the enemy team's picks.


simple split push


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P0tat0salad

Senior Member

11-08-2011

When this kinda team comes up you just need to make sure the following things are happening:

1. Everyone (and I mean everyone) needs tenacity.
2. If you can build a bit more tank to ward off initial dmg that helps
3. Stay apart in teamfights a bit so their ults don't hit your entire team
4. If needed even have your rammus and lee sin grab a quicksilver sash to try and pop off one of the bigger moves like amumu's ult.

These won't by any means make you win against a crazy team like this but it will definitely help.


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