Bot Lane Counter-Pick List

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FDru

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11-05-2011

Holy ****, a list that's actually useful and means something? Bravo, sir.


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Nekrogen

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11-05-2011

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Holy ****, a list that's actually useful and means something? Bravo, sir.
I agree. +1 and bookmarked for future reference :P


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Stimuz

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11-05-2011

Kog is the only soraka bot counter.


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Anniie

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11-05-2011

For countering Soraka bottom, I think she's hardest countered by ranged AD, more so than someone like Zilean.

See, Soraka has the third lowest base armor in the game. 8 ARMOR. Meanwhile, her passive gives her really good MR. Fighting Graves bot is a 50/50 at best, if he plays bad. Haven't seen her yet but Caitlyn is probably a real pain too.You'll usually rush a frozen heart early against these guys but it's not always enough. If they're smart and get lifesteal your pokes start getting really lackluster.


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JayceJa

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11-05-2011

moakai absolutely destroys the people on that list of 'counters'

maokais hardest counters are ryze and morgana


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Necks

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11-05-2011

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I would suggest switching out Sivir for urgot, because he CAN wreck him if he lands his noxian grenades. Sivir pops too easily and needs to get in range of his creeps to be effective, which means be in range of ryze :P.
No, Urgot sucks. Don't play him. He has no pushing power, he does no damage if he misses grenades. His skill ceiling is too high for most people to play him well. It's better to avoid picking Urgot all together. K.


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Stimuz

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11-05-2011

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For countering Soraka bottom, I think she's hardest countered by ranged AD, more so than someone like Zilean.

See, Soraka has the third lowest base armor in the game. 8 ARMOR. Meanwhile, her passive gives her really good MR. Fighting Graves bot is a 50/50 at best, if he plays bad. Haven't seen her yet but Caitlyn is probably a real pain too.You'll usually rush a frozen heart early against these guys but it's not always enough. If they're smart and get lifesteal your pokes start getting really lackluster.
It's still not a counter since she can just wipe any creep wave pushes if shes forced to play defensively while waiting for a key item like thornmail. Kog with phage is the only bot that can actually kill soraka.


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Nekrogen

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11-05-2011

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No, Urgot sucks. Don't play him. He has no pushing power, he does no damage if he misses grenades. His skill ceiling is too high for most people to play him well. It's better to avoid picking Urgot all together. K.
lol :P

Just saying, a good urgot can decimate anyone he pleases bottom lane, so i guess he could be a good counter to anyone haha


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Buru Diman

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11-06-2011

This list is a very good guide. But lets not forget that skill>champion. I would like to see the same list with the rest of the common bans. Like Ryze against Jax or Lee Sin against Akali or Yorick against Poppy (from my experience).


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Nekrogen

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11-06-2011

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This list is a very good guide. But lets not forget that skill>champion. I would like to see the same list with the rest of the common bans. Like Ryze against Jax or Lee Sin against Akali or Yorick against Poppy (from my experience).
Absolutely. Skill is the most important element of dominion.

Perhaps urgot is terribad in the wrong hands, I don't know (haven't really seen a godawful urgot before).


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