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How do I get wins above losses? (Normal games solo q)

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Nexus Crawler

Senior Member

10-10-2011

Another suggestion is learning to play a number of different roles. People in solo Q don't really like to pick champions other than what they want to play. Your team comps will be nearly worthless most of the time unless you do something to change that. I go from game to game playing Tank, Support, AD Carry, AP Carry, Jungle, Off-tank, etc. Once I learned a couple extra roles and how to at least mitigate some of the stupidity when it comes to team comps my W:L ratio sky rocketed. That being said it's hard to always keep it up (no viagra jokes please) because of Random team composition, Trolls, bad team play, disconnects, leavers, feeders and what have you. You'll have streaks of bad games because people will ultimately go "it's just a normal game. it's not ranked. whatever."

You have to get consistantly good some where. That's normal games.

Another piece of advise. If you want to increase your odds of winning consistantly learn to ward, and to counter ward.


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Incendax

Senior Member

10-10-2011

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solcroft:
I didn't say you shouldn't want to win. I'm just saying it's unrealistic to expect to have good scores when you're, well, still learning about your champs.
There are plenty of people in a normal game who would be furious if you tried to play a champ with no experience. Sometimes they go into those games knowing they have no real chance in Ranked but they still want to have some fun and win. When someone like you shows up to 'practice' your champion it pretty much ensures that your team is going to lose which is kind if disrespectful to the time invested by everyone else.

There are better places to practice new champions until you get familiar enough with them to not feed in a normal game.


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solcroft

Senior Member

10-10-2011

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Incendax:
There are plenty of people in a normal game who would be furious if you tried to play a champ with no experience. Sometimes they go into those games knowing they have no real chance in Ranked but they still want to have some fun and win. When someone like you shows up to 'practice' your champion it pretty much ensures that your team is going to lose which is kind if disrespectful to the time invested by everyone else.

There are better places to practice new champions until you get familiar enough with them to not feed in a normal game.

Except that practicing against bots doesn't really mean anything. Fact is, you can go on godlike streaks against bots all day long, and it doesn't guarantee you'll be able to hold your own against human opponents. Fact is, people who just want to "have fun and win" and can't handle "wasting" their time with the possibility of losing are the ones who should be playing vs bots instead.

I don't really know anyone who's irrational enough to be be "furious", as you put it. People are going to need somewhere to practice effectively. Those places are certainly not ranked or vsing bots, and not everyone can find enough people to run custom games all the time, which leaves...


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Leneux

Junior Member

10-10-2011

Yeah what solcroft said. Bots let things slide that a human player will not. Running into grass, behind minions, etc. can usually stop a bot from attacking you, even at intermediate level. Of course a human will not be fooled so easily.


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Mambazo

Senior Member

10-10-2011

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solcroft:
Honestly, I wasn't aware that people care about normal games. It's where people go to learn a new champ, test a new build, etc. I was under the impression that it's ranked games that matter.


Some people hate ranked, and there's a lot to hate. takes 5 times longer to start a game, cannot dodge trolls without permanent repercussions, gets taken way more seriously, and makes losses suck that much more because they make you lose elo and also become a matter of public record.

I wish I could play ranked, but I hate losing, and losing a ranked game sucks 10 times worse, so I usually dont. lol So yeah, i play normals to win.


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Incendax

Senior Member

10-10-2011

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solcroft:
Except that practicing against bots doesn't really mean anything. Fact is, you can go on godlike streaks against bots all day long, and it doesn't guarantee you'll be able to hold your own against human opponents. Fact is, people who just want to "have fun and win" and can't handle "wasting" their time with the possibility of losing are the ones who should be playing vs bots instead.
Practicing against bots can make you decent enough to not feed terribly in a normal game, but we're not even talking about practicing against bots. You can practice against real people in CUSTOM GAMES. Give it a try, that's what they are there for.

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I don't really know anyone who's irrational enough to be be "furious", as you put it. People are going to need somewhere to practice effectively. Those places are certainly not ranked or vsing bots, and not everyone can find enough people to run custom games all the time, which leaves...
If you do not know anyone who's irritational enough to be "furious" then you probably have a lot more free time than most people and don't mind throwing it away so frivolously :P I've never had a problem getting enough people for a custom game, so perhaps you just play at unusual times? This problem certainly wouldn't happen to everyone, just people with your schedule.


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topclick

Member

10-10-2011

gogo second post!


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Epsilon2012

Senior Member

10-10-2011

I'm about 40 wins over losses...

-I play whatever role is needed for the team...

-To win more though...play AP/Hybrid carry in Mid/Solo top...
-You can play an AD carry Bot...but you might have a team that ignores support...and you'll have to compete for last hits...or they fed...


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Aadis

Recruiter

10-10-2011

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Incendax:
Practicing against bots can make you decent enough to not feed terribly in a normal game, but we're not even talking about practicing against bots. You can practice against real people in CUSTOM GAMES. Give it a try, that's what they are there for.


Firstly it's a video game targeted as a free game for millions of people. That in itself answers this question. Riot wants people to play normal games because that's where they placed the most rewards. Conversely this helps everyone by making the queues faster.

If people want a perfect game without trolls, interruptions, or MISTAKES... those are the people that should take advantage of custom games. That is a great way to use customs if you're frustrated by normals.

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If you do not know anyone who's irritational enough to be "furious" then you probably have a lot more free time than most people and don't mind throwing it away so frivolously.


There are plenty of people with various degrees of anger playing online games. Some people will get mad because they like attention or like to deflect unwanted attention(for instance they die, but like to blame others). And then there are people who use the fact they are anonymous to vent their personal demons at random strangers.

If anyone has played competitive sports. You lose there as well, but you don't see the amount of rage that you would normally see here. Basically because people know if they talk like that in real life they would get PUNCHED. Unfornately what you say is true in that there are people who will take it very seriously, even personally. But if you get furious at a video game and at complete strangers to the point where it's personal... I think that would fit the definition of irrational. Completely human. Not really all that bad. But still irrational.


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lastchancexi

Senior Member

10-10-2011

Learn to jungle.

Play Lee Sin/Nocturne/Gangplank/Fiddlesticks/Udyr and maybe Warwick/Amumu and jungle every game there isn't a jungler on your team.

If top is 1v2, gank it once or twice early to give top a big level lead, and then go gank other lanes.

Junglers is a very underplayed role, and it really helps your team composition to have one.

The other thing you can do is play support if you're going bot in a 2v2 lane. I recommend Soraka for this, even after the nerf. She's just so strong (and slightly boring).

Other than that, get better at farming and last hitting and win your lane as solo top or solo mid, and you'll win.

I don't recommend going AD carry bot because your lane partner always steals farm from you, so you really can't do great as an AD carry, but I guess if you get kills. Kog'Maw, Urgot and Caitlyn are the best AD carries right now, IMO, with Ashe a little behind.


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