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Thornmail: The secret is out!

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Prometheius

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Last Whisper. I've dueled a Rammus at a neutral turret. Both full geared. He had TMail. I had Last Whisper + Sanguine.

Guess who wins.


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BadgerBarrage

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Quote:
Mr Threepwood:
Thornmail returns magic damage to. Cho'Gath couple of stacks, warmogs, thornmail. Kog is now taking out half his own health per hit. YAY!


Though if he goes and buys a Wit's End it goes a decent way towards combating this.


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Melvear

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Quote:
FDru:
Every armor item > thornmail. Armor without HP backing it is completely worthless.


Yeah, making your base HP worth twice as much is completely worthless

Strange little world you live in.


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Fluffdelgato

Senior Member

10-06-2011

wat if rammus has sunfires thornmail warmogs aegis randuins? then getti nthornmail is usless


anyways idk why i said but il try thornmail


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ViashinoWizard

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Quote:
Fluffdelgato:
wat if rammus has sunfires thornmail warmogs aegis randuins? then getti nthornmail is usless


anyways idk why i said but il try thornmail


Then you ignore him until everyone else is dead.


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Melvear

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Quote:
Fluffdelgato:
wat if rammus has sunfires thornmail warmogs aegis randuins? then getti nthornmail is usless


anyways idk why i said but il try thornmail


If rammus is getting all those, I sure hope he's against 5 AD cause he's gonna get murdered by any ap


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Duskofdead

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Thornmail is usually a bad attempt by someone like a Vayne to stop someone like a Tryndamere from destorying her if he gets right on top of her.

Real men (err, tanks) use stuff like Randuin's and Frozen Heart, since these produce side effects like attack speed slowing and such which help your team around you.


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Tritotamar

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Quote:
ViashinoWizard:
ITT: The sun rises in the east.


Not when you're playing Minecraft.


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Terrog

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Thornmail is amazing vs ad heavy teams. Dominion requires planning and forthought just like any other game that includes counters. If their comp is bad take advantage.


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Melvear

Senior Member

10-06-2011

Quote:
Duskofdead:
Thornmail is usually a bad attempt by someone like a Vayne to stop someone like a Tryndamere from destorying her if he gets right on top of her.

Real men (err, tanks) use stuff like Randuin's and Frozen Heart, since these produce side effects like attack speed slowing and such which help your team around you.


However, considering this isn't SR and you will eventually/most of the time be 1v1, Thornmail is a very effective mix of defence and offence. Hard carries rarely get defensive items, so the damage return hits them fairly hard.

Thornmail is a bad choice against champions such as Pantheon, who rely on AD related abilities to deal their damage. You could probably count characters who build trinity in that bunch as well. In those case, Randuins would be your most effective item.