@Riot Shen

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GenesisV1

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08-22-2011

Besides the fact that he's clearly underpowered right now, I also don't think he has much of a cool factor.

The Lore makes all the champions look and sound powerful. Shen is no exception.

"Eye of the twilight."

Looks and sounds powerful. Total scorpion/subzero lookalike.

Skills: He throws a sword, he creates a bubble around himself, he lunges forward swearing at the enemy to make them attack him, and then he creates a bigger bubble around one of his allies. Oh, and he can make his hands glow to hit harder one time.

Everyone already knows he's weak, but I think the cool factor is missing here as well.

So Riot, can we get any preview on what the Shen remake will look like?


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Liabilities

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08-22-2011

"this unit is a flippin' ninja"

Phreak: IS THAT NOT COOL ENOUGH FOR YOU!


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BlargCow

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08-22-2011

he doesn't need a remake


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GenesisV1

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08-22-2011

If he doesn't need a remake, then his numbers would need to change A LOT to make him more viable.


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Seņor Pancho

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08-22-2011

He isnt UP in any way. He is still good. Stop saying the same BS like the rest of the baddies. I have been seeing a few impressing shens lately and a good bunch of twitches too. You are probably just bad at him and immediately blame the recent nerfs for it.


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Blackfire447

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08-22-2011

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Originally Posted by Se?or Pancho View Post
He isnt UP in any way. He is still good. Stop saying the same BS like the rest of the baddies. I have been seeing a few impressing shens lately and a good bunch of twitches too. You are probably just bad at him and immediately blame the recent nerfs for it.
He does like....50 damage. He is like an annoying fly buzzing around in a team fight.


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GenesisV1

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Originally Posted by Se?or Pancho View Post
He isnt UP in any way. He is still good. Stop saying the same BS like the rest of the baddies. I have been seeing a few impressing shens lately and a good bunch of twitches too. You are probably just bad at him and immediately blame the recent nerfs for it.
You're lying to yourself if you think Shen's kit is viable compared to other tanks.

Passive: Does barely anything early game. Completely useless mid and late game. Worse than passives on other tanks like Amumu, Leona, Rammus, Cho'Gath, Singed. COMPLETELY inferior to Jarvan's Passive. Which can be used on multiple targets in a short span of time.

Q: Maxing this first gives you decent early game poke. Even then, worthless as a poke against a lane that has any sustain. The heal isn't that great early, it's not that great late either. Maxing it last will make it even more useless early. Unnoticeable mid and late game. Heal is weak and difficult to make use of. Damage is negligible. Throwing this in a team fight is almost a waste of energy.

W: Self Shield. Cool. Does nothing but block some damage. How does this skill help Shen fulfill his role as a tank? Running into a team and turning on faint doesn't exactly make you a "desirable target." It helps him stay alive, but contributes nothing to your team unless you're just trying to block a Nidalee spear or an Ezreal mystic shot. Who even focuses Shen in a teamfight? Can't be used on another ally, doesn't provide any utility. It's just free health.

E: Probably the best skill Shen has. Taunt lasts a good amount of time. If used properly, you can score your team a very nice initiate. Low cool down, goes through walls. Basically the ONLY reason to play shen. This skill is his bread and better. Chase, escape, initiate, sponge damage, maybe reflect some with a thornmail.

R: This skill used to be why he was banned. Think you're about to burst down that annoying Malzahar at mid who's been pushing down your lane? He has about half his health, but your Tibbers isn't up yet. It's okay, just flash, Q+W+Ignite him. Oh look he purple glowing thing saving him from your ignite and normal attacks. Oh darnit that Malzahar gets away, depriving you of your flash and ignite. Now you also have this annoying ninja in your lane constantly throwing swords in your face and just pecking at your health. No matter how much damage you do to this guy, he just feints and throws those annoying 70 damage flying katanas in your face, peeling you down for when that Malzahar gets back in lane. This skill isn't bad, it just does very little late game. Very little. If you're trying to save someone gets ganked late game, it's very unlikely that a 750 damage shield is going to save someone. Not saying you can't save anyone at all, but it just doesn't do that much. It lets Shen door somewhere and then show up if you try to fight his team 5 v 4, but it's really not game changing or anything. It's just +750 health. That's his ULTIMATE. Compare to that ultimates that have high numbers. Soraka's ultimate heals 2200 health (440 x 5) without any AP. Fiddlesticks does 1625 + 2.25 AP (All 5 ticks) up to 5 targets. 750 Health at a 1.0 ratio (Shen's rarely get anymore than a Rylai's) isn't an impressive ultimate at all.

tl;dr Saying Shen isn't UP and is equally viable as tanks such as Amumu, Cho'Gath, Jarvan, or pretty much any other tank is like saying AD Heimerdinger is just as viable as Ashe.