Why Sexual Orientation Matters to Some People

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Zenbear

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08-21-2011

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That is something for society as a whole to decide.
Yes it is and it is becoming increasingly apparent in our societies era that it is not as "deviant" as we once espoused and peoples minds are changing albeit slowly.


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Zero THM

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08-21-2011

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but not equal enough. what about marriage and adopting a child, those are all parts of living a "normal" life.

Blacks fought for their rights, women fought for theirs, now it's just someone elses turn to fight for their rights.

Freedom and Justice for all.......but only if you fight for it! *trollface*
Marriage is equal. Every man can marry a woman and vice versa.

Adoption is equal. Agencies consider parents on a criteria set by both the government and the major societal beliefs.


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Bump N Grind

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08-21-2011

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True, but controlling the early game is a very important step in a total victory, such as the way Cait can completely dominate a lane but tends to fall off towards the mid-late game. Also, what would be the negative effect of killing her pet? How long would it take to respawn? Also it would need to be strong enough that it takes care of her, not Sivir frantically searching around to make sure her pet doesn't die. Turning her into a pet sitter would be bad.
I think this might end up turning Sivir into the next "Orianna" so to say, commanding the pet and then auto-attacking/tossing boomerangs from afar. Sivir ir pretty squishy as it is, making her pet killable would bring her back down to just above where she is now. Or what if the pet is killable, but it can move a farther distance than Orianna's ball, so she can use the pet kind of like a scout Remember Moon Priestesses owl from WC3?


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Uccisore

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08-21-2011

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Yes it is and it is becoming increasingly apparent in our societies era that it is not as "deviant" as we once espoused and peoples minds are changing albeit slowly.
Really? What does 'deviant' mean? How did it become apparent that homosexuality isn't deviant, when before we thought it was? What did we learn?


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Uccisore

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Marriage is equal. Every man can marry a woman and vice versa.
The way they are phrasing it is by saying "If man can marry a woman, but a woman can't marry a woman, that's gender discrimination because men an do something women can't."

Not saying I agree, but that's the form of the argument you have to beat.


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Zenbear

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Really? What does 'deviant' mean? How did it become apparent that homosexuality isn't deviant, when before we thought it was? What did we learn?
Sexual deviancy falls under anything that is abnormal atleast that's the basic dictionary definition. What I mean is that it is becoming a norm in society.


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Bump N Grind

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Why not? Homosexuality has always been considered a sexual deviancy. Should we stop considering it one just because it makes homosexuals mad?

It's not like we learned some fascinating new fact about homosexuality in the past 10 years that makes it different from incest or bestiality or anything. A bunch of gays just got together and said "STOP MAKING FUN OF US! SERIOUSLY!" rednecks banging their sisters in Alabama could do that next year.
I can see what you're getting at but the fact is the gay population is far more larger than the state of Alabama or those few people who make love to their pets.


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Uccisore

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Sexual deviancy falls under anything that is abnormal atleast that's the basic dictionary definition.
Well, 10% or less of people are homosexual. That sounds pretty ****ed abnormal to me.


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Bump N Grind

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Marriage is equal. Every man can marry a woman and vice versa.

Adoption is equal. Agencies consider parents on a criteria set by both the government and the major societal beliefs.
We're talking about men marrying men and same for women. I already know marriage is equal for straight people.


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Uccisore

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I can see what you're getting at but the fact is the gay population is far more larger than the state of Alabama or those few people who make love to their pets.
Which is another way of saying might makes right. Gays can yell louder because there's more of them, so they get rights that bestiality people don't.

Which completely undermines the whole notion of what a right is, and which means that straights are justified in saying "THere's more of us than there are gays, and we say stfu".