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the -20% healing debuff

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Zileas

VP of Game Design

08-18-2011

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Fox P McCloud:
So does this mean, by the time everything is said and done (ie: ignite changes, sustain changes, new healing reduction items), Vladimir will be trash tier in dominion (and SR)?


Drama Much?

No. We nerfed sustain on Dominion because sustain is stronger there. It's still good with the nerfs. Really good.

- Tom


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IS11d6327cb35cafc124891

Senior Member

08-18-2011

what is the -20% debuff ? debuff of dominion map only or summoner rift too ?


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SBGC Jammer

Recruiter

08-18-2011

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Nostradamusss:
what is the -20% debuff ? debuff of dominion map only or summoner rift too ?

Dominion only. If they wanted to apply it to Summoner's Rift as well, they could just reduce coefficients and bases of all sustain spells by 20%.


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hashinshin

Senior Member

08-18-2011

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Zileas:
Drama Much?

No. We nerfed sustain on Dominion because sustain is stronger there. It's still good with the nerfs. Really good.

- Tom

20% less sustain hits yi pretty dang hard when his best build is ghostblade + wriggle's. He pretty much can only function as a life steal tank. I know you don't want dominant 1v1ers but I mean lets be real here. Yi can't win a 1v1 till 25 minutes on SR, he just gets burst down. Removing 5 of those minutes by early gold still means that by the time most games on dominion are wrapping up yi is like YEAH TIME TO BE GOOD- wait its over.


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Eph289

Senior Member

08-18-2011

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hashinshin:
20% less sustain hits yi pretty dang hard when his best build is ghostblade + wriggle's. He pretty much can only function as a life steal tank. I know you don't want dominant 1v1ers but I mean lets be real here. Yi can't win a 1v1 till 25 minutes on SR, he just gets burst down. Removing 5 of those minutes by early gold still means that by the time most games on dominion are wrapping up yi is like YEAH TIME TO BE GOOD- wait its over.


Now recalculate that with 1375 starting gold and increased gold gain per second, bro. Yi should be hitting his YEAH PAR-TAY PAR-TAY time a lot sooner than in SR. Also, no Wriggle's, so . . . meh.


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Karazu

Senior Member

08-18-2011

Also, remember that tehre are runes around the map that heal your champ, so the debuff will make you look for those runes around the map. Changing your sustained heal for "burst" regen when you get that rune


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TheCasualGamer

Member

08-18-2011

So don't Play Yi????


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hashinshin

Senior Member

08-18-2011

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SilentRuler:
So don't Play Yi????

Which cuts down on our champion base for dominion before we've even started.


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hashinshin

Senior Member

08-18-2011

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Eph289:
Now recalculate that with 1375 starting gold and increased gold gain per second, bro. Yi should be hitting his YEAH PAR-TAY PAR-TAY time a lot sooner than in SR. Also, no Wriggle's, so . . . meh.

No AFK farm time.

This impacts yi, this impacts nasus (who has life gain as his freakin PASSIVE!) this impacts morgana (... again) this impacts udyr, this SIGNIFICANTLY impacts warwick.

You're trying to keep the map open for all champions, but then artificially limiting some champions. Okay, so nasus's life steal is impacted, trynd's is impacted, but cassiopeia can trollololol harass all game and then grab the very same heal runes on her own?

Whats next, we nerf the damage ranged harass champions can do cause sustain got nerfed? Then we have to nerf burst cause harass is down?


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TheCasualGamer

Member

08-18-2011

So dont play those champions??