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Elementz 5v5 Tier List (Draft Mode)

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EpicHippo

Senior Member

08-28-2010

Quote:
bazinga:
but not in this patch


Ya, she got nerfed this patch. Her infuse was nerfed so that she only restores half as much mana as she used to to her teammate. Plus her mana costs were increased for heals again.


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devotionx

Senior Member

08-28-2010

i'd say tanky garren aka sunfirecape, GA and specific stuff(thronmail, banshees f.e.)
still significant dps


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Flow n Crash

Member

08-28-2010

I love Kennen, I play him alot however the last patch didn't really do anything except screw his stun capability over with the diminishing returns coupled with reduced base duration.

The ap ratio buff to his ulti was decent but the increase to Electrical Surge is not even noticeable. 50 dmg increase @ 500 ap not counting resistances. Really?

Added MR/armor on LR is also positive. Had this been on his ulti even better. That's when he needs to stay alive.

All in all, damage increase negligible. He still has sub-par damage even though his ulti could actually hurt now provided he survives.
A tiny bit of added survivability during LR which hasn't really helped out much from my experiences so far. If you get caught and targeted you are still dead.
His chain-stunning used to be his thing and useful as it was. If you chain-stunned the total stun duration was similar to that of other champs. A lone stun was still short.
Now... it's ridiculous.

His stuns took a severe hit and are more or less just interrupts now after the first stun.
At the same time, they didn't really increase his damage output nor his survivability.
This is not just theorycrafting, I've played him almost exclusively since the patch and I played him alot even before the patch so this is observations and experiences.

I would love an explanation to why he is suddenly tier 2 considering what I stated above.


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Slumber Jack

Player Behavior Specialist

08-28-2010

Quote:
Flow n Crash:
I love Kennen, I play him alot however the last patch didn't really do anything except screw his stun capability over with the diminishing returns coupled with reduced base duration.

The ap ratio buff to his ulti was decent but the increase to Electrical Surge is not even noticeable. 50 dmg increase @ 500 ap not counting resistances. Really?

Added MR/armor on LR is also positive. Had this been on his ulti even better. That's when he needs to stay alive.

All in all, damage increase negligible. He still has sub-par damage even though his ulti could actually hurt now provided he survives.
A tiny bit of added survivability during LR which hasn't really helped out much from my experiences so far. If you get caught and targeted you are still dead.
His chain-stunning used to be his thing and useful as it was. If you chain-stunned the total stun duration was similar to that of other champs. A lone stun was still short.
Now... it's ridiculous.

His stuns took a severe hit and are more or less just interrupts now after the first stun.
At the same time, they didn't really increase his damage output nor his survivability.
This is not just theorycrafting, I've played him almost exclusively since the patch and I played him alot even before the patch so this is observations and experiences.

I would love an explanation to why he is suddenly tier 2 considering what I stated above.


You musn't be playing him right, because half the things you mentioned are the exact opposite of what you think they are.


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Bbriguyy

Junior Member

08-28-2010

@Elementz, Since you seem very knowledgeable I would like some information as to what you think the best runes are for Annie also in building her during the game if you could help me that would be amazing


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KoD Jusmessin

Member

08-28-2010

Quote:
VMan7:
Veigar.

What do I win?


5 idiots packed in a null Zone!


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BustaBerserker

Junior Member

08-28-2010

Except that Veigar can theoretically do infinite damage, unless there's some sort of AP cap that I'm unaware of.


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Cruzerthebruzer

Senior Member

08-28-2010

DFG poppy


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devotionx

Senior Member

08-28-2010

Ashe, Sivir, Zilean, Xin Zhao
Dont get it. I'd put him infront of Ashe


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Elementz

Senior Recruiter

08-28-2010

Quote:
DanGR:
Just wondering how he builds him, because he used to think Kog'maw was garbage because he was using an inferior build.


So far the best Urgot i've seen has been TMRBeauty and they play a pretty good Urgot. They go brut, blackcleaver, trinity I believe. Seems to do some pretty good DPS. Yet I still don't see anyone picking Urgot over any of the ranged carries out there now.