Is AP alistar still viable?

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PimperGnome

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07-08-2011

It's a pretty significant nerf. 10% nerf to damage, 20% nerf to your heal. I don't get the .2 ratio at all...doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If they thought it was too powerful, change it to a flat rate, or decrease the CD. But a .2 ratio? Seems way too harsh combined with the additional 10% damage nerf. I do know that they've had a hard time making Alistar balanced....especially after the patch a few times back. He was ruling pretty hard in the tournaments...so much so he started to get perma banned. Just not sure a flat Ration Dip was the best way to go about balancing him.


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Everspace

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07-08-2011

The problem was that Heal has an extreemly short cooldown in lane, so while that .3 -> .2 looks silly, by casting it often it reduces his VERY good sustain in lane, and his constant healing during battle.

That heal nerf will definitively hurt an AP alistar, causing him to have a large amount less of effective HP from the heal over time, causing him to have to think about who to smush, rather than just facerolling as much in part to the heal.

At least that's how I read into it.


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Killzerz

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07-08-2011

Should not have touched his heal. Now if you get 100 AP you heal your teammates for...10 more. What?

But everything else was warranted. (Yes I play the cow!)

Still viable? Yep! Massive CCs and near invulnerability will always make him tier 1 material.


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SkullKillahz

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07-09-2011

Hes still good to play but only minor nerfs. AP alistar is still viable.


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Jazman84

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07-09-2011

Give AD a try IMO. Q still does plenty of base dmg, and if you right click before the Q you will auto attack them as soon as you reach them for a decent amount in addition to the Q dmg. With combos the dmg gets very high. As AD you are more or less waiting for CDs, as AD you are much more useful when CDs are down and your burst isn't too far off, yet dos is much much higher. If you have Trinity you will hit for a huge amount due to Ali's high base dmg. I beleve his alt adds to his base dmg too. I usually build a Trinity, Ghostblade, Ionion boots, Warmogs, Atmas. And a Wriggles or Bloodthirster, usually Wriggles for a ward.


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cj16

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07-09-2011

yeah its no big deal...i played AP ali today and i really didnt notice anything except on the heal


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Faem

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07-09-2011

Ahem, you won't notice the changes, at least I didn't. Make an alteration to your play-style though and remember he isn't going to be always in lane because of the heal. The damage you won't notice late game, the heal you will though, just build defense items (I recommend Rylai's so you can slow and +500 hp )


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XTreeX

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08-22-2011

Yay sory kinda nercoing this thread (only by a few months)
but i guess that AP alistar is still viable
thats good news. Would you rather have an Ap alistar on your team or a karthus though?
comparing a good AP alistar to a decent karthus?

thanks guys


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08-22-2011

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08-23-2011

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