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What should we do with flash?

Nothing! 12298 45.94%
Just get rid of it. 5072 18.95%
Get rid of it and add some portion of the changes you are suggesting. 8265 30.88%
Something else, comments in thread. 1133 4.23%
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What should we do with Flash?

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Nizari

Senior Member

03-31-2010

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Blink Dagger would just be overlooked if its expensive.
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It would be bought by Alistar and other initiators and overlooked by those that need a quick way to run. Pure win


That's the problem with it in item form... it has to be cheap enough, or have universal enough stats... that people like alistar/fiddle want to buy it over other items to do their job better.... OR it has to be expensive enough, that every noob doesn't buy it and it's even worse than having it as a summoner spell "would you like 3 OP summoner spells????"

I think in item form it will be impossible to balance.

[edit] also, this has to be the fastest expanding thread in history... 10 mins between my posts and its gone 4 pages along >.<


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Tervic

Junior Member

03-31-2010

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simschi:
Maybe u should let flash like it is, but bann it for some Heroes like Annie and Fiddle.

All the people complaining about fiddlesticks do understand that his ult has a built in blink after the 2 second channel, right?


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Sedon

Senior Member

03-31-2010

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Mpalm:
Make it like blink dagger, but keep it as a summoner spell.

Increase range, make it not cancel spells and such, reduce cd by a decent amount and make it so you cannot flash for 3 seconds after being in combat.

Makes it great for initiation and good for escaping ganks if you spot the gank early enough... but removes the "LOL WAY TO WASTE YOUR SPELLS *FLASH OVER A WALL*" factor of flash.


This is it. Just implement this exactly into the game, and everyone would be happy. None of those other changes in the OP please.


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Xixy

Member

03-31-2010

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Sedon:
This is it. Just implement this exactly into the game, and everyone would be happy. None of those other changes in the OP please.

I don't even use Flash and I wouldn't be happy with such a moronic change. Don't make assumptions based on your own opinions.


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Fides

Member

03-31-2010

Remove it and put it in an item.


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Aurinax

Recruiter

03-31-2010

Crithica still refuses to explain why everyone except him is a moron.


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Detha

Recruiter

03-31-2010

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Tervic:
All the people complaining about fiddlesticks do understand that his ult has a built in blink after the 2 second channel, right?

The reason Fiddlesticks needs Flash is because people Flash out of his ultimate after he casts it, and he needs Flash to chase them.


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Talamare

Senior Member

03-31-2010

Quote:
ConeEtho:
30% and immunity to slow is more than enough to close the gap. More than that and it will be exactly as bad as flash.


ghost is 40% and lasts 20? seconds
no one would ever use it if it only does 30%

Also as your speed gets absurdly high you get hit by massive soft cap

Passing 415/490 speed you get hit by massive diminishing returns

someone with 320 speed + 70 from boots = 390 + 100% dash = 780

780 - 490 = 290 * 0.5 = 145 - 15 = 130


At 100% a person with 390 move speed would be increased to 620 for 3 seconds


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Xixy

Member

03-31-2010

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Aurinax:
Crithica still refuses to explain why everyone except him is a moron.

And you still refuse to explain why you aren't. Tell me, why do you think Flash is bad? Is it because it can be used to run away, or is it the fact that it ****s up projectiles? If it's the latter then you have a right to complain. if it's the former, you're complaining for your own benefit.


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Nizari

Senior Member

03-31-2010

Quote:
Tervic:
All the people complaining about fiddlesticks do understand that his ult has a built in blink after the 2 second channel, right?


2 second channel... most of the time, any competent team won't be standing nearby/grouped up for over 2 seconds, let alone within that 2 seconds you're team retreating and leaving you alone to get smashed....

Flash isn't that op on fiddle, it's almost always used as an initiator... it's more op on other people using it as a freebe escape.