Jax is not OP

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Laudani

Junior Member

08-31-2009

Jax is not OP. Jax is not OP. Jax is not OP!

I don't get whats so OP about him? "He can dodge", so what? He can be nuked ten ways till Tuesday, and the dodge chance can only get up to ~40 at max.

"He can solo mostly any champion", NO HE CAN'T! Most champions can disable / slow him at range or use a escape mech. to get away. Plus if the champion has any brains he/she would tag along with a friend. Jax cannot handle two champions on his own. Not if they are smart.

The only OP thing about Jax that I agree with is his lane pushing ability. (Q) Too much damage for a low cost, no cooldown, ability.


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Ponies Gonna Pwn

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08-31-2009

You seem to be cleverly avoiding the massive burst damage, AoE, mobility, disable, sustained dps, farming power, and survivability. Hot damn, is there anything Jax isn't good at? Oh wait. He's overpowered.


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NinjaBoyLao

Senior Member

08-31-2009

Wait until you see Jax killing 5 enemies on their fountain. It's amusing.


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Laudani

Junior Member

08-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Aratrok the Merciless View Post
You seem to be cleverly avoiding the massive burst damage, AoE, mobility, disable, sustained dps, farming power, and survivability. Hot damn, is there anything Jax isn't good at? Oh wait. He's overpowered.
Burst damage? Srsly? Jax has to hit three times before he gains any type of burst damage and thats after a buff.

I didn't avoid the AoE, its the only ability I have a problem with.

Mobility isn't Jax's strong point ether. He has a way to get into fights, but not out. He is not the fastest champion nor is he the slowest. He has about as much mobility as any other champion.

Disable? If you call that one second hiccup a disable then you gotta be kidding. It takes a good chunk of Jax's mana to use it and you can only use it if he dodges / every 7 seconds.

Sustained dps is what a carry is for.

Farming power, IMO the nutural creeps are to weak, they need a buff.

Survivability is not a strong point for jax ether. He has no escape mechinisum, low health, and any slow / disable will screw with him.


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Atmosfear

Senior Member

08-31-2009

One of the problems with Jax is that he doesn't have to gear himself for offensive stats (or very much). He doesn't need haste since his ult gives it to him. He doesn't need much damage items since his ult also gives him that. So what you have is a DPS champion that can just gear for survivability and thanks to Atma's Impaler, he can still get DPS stats. Oh yeah, no other hero has dodge tacked on to their abilities. The fact that you can get 11% from runes alone makes Jax virtually untouchable by most melee once he has Ninja Tabi and Phantom Dancer.


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Laudani

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08-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Atmosfear View Post
One of the problems with Jax is that he doesn't have to gear himself for offensive stats (or very much). He doesn't need haste since his ult gives it to him. He doesn't need much damage items since his ult also gives him that. So what you have is a DPS champion that can just gear for survivability and thanks to Atma's Impaler, he can still get DPS stats. Oh yeah, no other hero has dodge tacked on to their abilities. The fact that you can get 11% from runes alone makes Jax virtually untouchable by most melee once he has Ninja Tabi and Phantom Dancer.
You can only get the haste from his ult only if you attack ~5 times. Its like a car that requires a few turns of the ignition before being able to run. In most battles I couldn't get the haste built up enough to make a difference.

The fact is that Jax must build for survivability if he hopes to do anything. Focus fire will kill Jax within seconds in team battles.

Dodge is what makes Jax unique. Its the same as how Anne can stun with any attack and how Master Yi can hit two times with any attack.


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Arai Kitsune

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09-01-2009

Everyone disregard what this guy says, I recognise his name. Not that you probably weren't, anyway, but still. This guy was on our team a few matches ago, and played as Jax, and fed most of the game. He claimed Jax wasn't overpowered throughout the game trying to use his stats to prove it. In the end, he almost did worse than my friend, the Taric, who is completely new to LoL and DotA style games.

Jax is overpowered, you're just terrible as him.


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Anang

Senior Member

09-01-2009

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Originally Posted by Laudani
Burst damage? Srsly? Jax has to hit three times before he gains any type of burst damage and thats after a buff.
After he charges Q and leap strikes you into a stun, you've been bursted pretty hard.


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Lollerman

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09-01-2009

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After he charges Q and leap strikes you into a stun, you've been bursted pretty hard.
This is surprisingly bursty, especially with a bottle of elixer.

1:1 AP ratio is intense.


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Laudani

Junior Member

09-01-2009

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After he charges Q and leap strikes you into a stun, you've been bursted pretty hard.
You cant leap stun because you have to dodge to use the stun, if you've been attacked and have the purple bubble around you the opposing champion should, if they are smart, back off and wait till the bubble goes away.


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