When did TF go from trash tier to op?

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HotSoggyNoodles

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06-01-2011

It was just the meta change to largely split pushing (people realized it was powerful in solo queue) which made him popular. He can still be lackluster as a champ but his counters are few and far between.


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Zerocaliber

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06-01-2011

The main cause for it is the shift from the tanky DPS meta to this newer more suishy heroes meta.

TF really didn't pack enough power to do anything against a team of mostly tanks, forcing him to either backdoor or get stunned/slaughtered in a team fight. You couldn't gank, because most tanky heroes could either escape well and shrug off your damage, out damage you, or avoid your teleport entirely.

With the recent nerfs to those heroes, TF is playing against many more ranged carries and mages. These are heroes which don't have the kind of survivability that made TF unable to hurt them. Thus he can get a lot more fed and really dish out damage.


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Gengår

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06-01-2011

I used to think TF was bad too but I realized most people I saw just didn't know how to play TF. He's very hard to play. TF has map control and awareness and people who would regularly gank an enemy would not do so without making sure he can gank without losing a majority of his health because of the threat that TF might teleport in and kill him


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Whizzard

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06-01-2011

Geez calm down im not trying to insult any tf players or anything, this is not a flame or insult thread im just interested because im really not seeing it. His range is small for a carry and with bad movement speed and survivability all the games ive had against one have ended up with him being focused and dead in 2 seconds.


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Previnity

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06-01-2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyKenny View Post
As soon as people realized that a global teleport can be used for split pushing.
This is pretty much it. Its compliments the FotM of split pushing.

AP TF can clear a minion wave in 2 abilities. Thus global taunting everyone to go bot. Ults to top lane and does the same... God help you if he has teleport summoners too.


I will be curious to see what happens at DreamHack where Euro play has much less split pushin VS NA split pushing style. Maybe there will be a game where TF won't get banned.


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Whizzard

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06-01-2011

Thanks for all the replies, so i guess its just his split pushing power combined with change in meta? hmmm im going to have to try him now.


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Rebonack

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06-01-2011

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Originally Posted by Mr Scorpio View Post
IMO, around the time that the minion+tower changes went down.
This.

This change made split pushing considerably more powerful. And Fate split pushes like a boss.


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Quintessence

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06-01-2011

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he's never been trash tier. anyone that thought someone with a global teleport 2 second stun and huge burst damage was trash is a god ****ed ******
someone is trolling.

if anyone thinks TF's burst is huge they probably don't play any mages..


always picked/banned for global pushing and ganking/awareness, it is that simple. his damage has nothing to do with it.


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Kagetenshi

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06-01-2011

Ever since he rocked CLG in the WCG.


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FeralSpider

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06-01-2011

Coordinated ganks, map awareness, and split pushing are all very important in high elo/competitive games. This is why TF is amazing/always banned not because he is a (rather bad) carry. Gank anywhere on the map from your fountain? Check. See every enemy champ on the map? Check. Split push/backdoor and still be able to get into teamfights? Check.
TF OP